PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

siegecrossbow

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This would likely backfire on the US due to its reporting on Gaza; most of the world would care about as much as it did with the fake uighur genocide claims

Not necessarily. Most Americans and foreign consumers of MSM know that it is BS when it comes to domestic matters, but when it comes to China they swallow whatever garbage MSM spew without questioning.
 
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GulfLander

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The US sending one or two carriers to break the blockade is suicidal.
Blockade and bomb the island, not just a naval blockade.

Patchwork gave a very detail description on how things will go down. Things will only get worse for the US as time goes on

Do u think US will nuclearly arm those typhon missiles in the PH?
 

Biscuits

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Do u think US will nuclearly arm those typhon missiles in the PH?
China can shoot down a limited (1-300?) strike without much issue. And nobody else in Asia can meaningfully defend against return nukes.

In practice the US nuclear deterrence is quite eroded because they have the concept that they need to nuke every major nation in a nuclear war. Because US has so many enemies. Imagine for example if only US and China nuke eachother, then even Iraq or Syria or Cuba can embark 100 000 terrorists on container ships, crash into US and establish control over the survivors.

Russia's sheer size demands perhaps 1000 nukes. China has the world's most advanced counter ICBM defenses, so maybe 1000-2000? That will already be more than what US has on competent strike platforms (I.e. not cold war era gravity bombs).

China pretty much halted it's nuclear modernization after updating the missiles to better mirv (df-41) and are now only really advancing in missile defense. The US nuclear question is mostly solved.
 

AndrewS

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Man, would love to hear Patch's thoughts and reaction to the Chinese 6th Gen reveal and it's impact on a US-China conflict. Red alarms must be sounding all over in Pentagon and serious analysts' desks

Patch is probably having fun putting the J-36 and J-XS into his models.

Those battlefield simulation results are what really will be sounding alarms.
 

AndrewS

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China can shoot down a limited (1-300?) strike without much issue. And nobody else in Asia can meaningfully defend against return nukes.

In practice the US nuclear deterrence is quite eroded because they have the concept that they need to nuke every major nation in a nuclear war. Because US has so many enemies. Imagine for example if only US and China nuke eachother, then even Iraq or Syria or Cuba can embark 100 000 terrorists on container ships, crash into US and establish control over the survivors.

Unfortunately China will face the same realist logic about nuking neutral countries so they don't take over in the aftermath of a US-China nuclear exchange, assuming humanity survives.

But if we're all doomed anyway because of a nuclear winter, there wouldn't be any need to.

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The best solution is for the US to acknowledge that the US and China can't get into a war with each other. China would happily agree to this.

After all, that is how the US and Russia treat each other. However, this will require China's deployable nuclear arsenal to grow to circa 1500 warheads, which is comparable to that of the USA or Russia. We're probably looking at the next 5-10 years.
 

AndrewS

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Japan yearns to be liberated, only by dragging the US in a big fight with China can Japan have any hopes of a better future. It may seem counter intuitive but a military defeat of Japan (and the US) against the militarily more powerful China is precisely what Japan needs right now. In this context I think the ultranationalist Abe's interests and actions actually align with PRC more, compared to America's loyal dog Kishida, despite Abe's war crime dog whistles. 台湾有事は日本有事 maybe shouldn't be interpreted as Japan's neo-imperial ambitions, but rather like Japan's last plea for help, to save themselves when Taiwan gets liberated. If these Ultranationalist factions succeeds, they would be in some sense a successful version of 曲线救国, perhaps CPC overlords will treat the Japanese better than Uncle Sam's dirty Gaijins.

Also I think Republic of Korea shouldn't be compared with Japan in terms of historical animosity and territorial aggression against China. They (the elites and the masses) can and will switch alliances without much bloodshed, even if they are presently occupied by GIs.

Japan does not yearn to be liberated as you put it.
They're used to American Primacy and being junior (kohai) to the USA.

Currently China isn't sufficiently powerful enough (whether militarily or economically) for Japanese national interest to shift from the US to China.

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In comparison, South Korea has a stark left-right divide because of history.

The conservative, pro-American, right-wing President recently tried a military coup, against the National Assembly and to arrest the opposition party and even members of his own party.

The opposition party (who control National Assembly) was *formed* from the days when South Korea was ruled by a right-wing military dictatorship backed by the Americans.

NB. Notice how the few supporters of the South Korea President keep waving a lot of American flags. But shouldn't they be waving South Korean flags if they are patriots?
 

Sinnavuuty

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(1/2) PLA conducted a Joint Combat Readiness Patrol around Taiwan, with about 18 sorties flying to TW's eastern waters. PLA aircraft rarely conduct such flights to TW's east in January; this is the third such incident since 2021 and the largest number of sorties to the east.
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Is this really unusual?
 

coolgod

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Is this really unusual?
No it's already normalized by the PLA, I recall there was even a map released by Wanwan which showed the PLA flying all around Taiwan.

PLA aircraft rarely conduct such flights to TW's east in January

Maybe the keyword is January, they'll get use to it soon.
 
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