PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

solarz

Brigadier
That US will come into direct conflict comes without saying, since no one has the ability to attack China by themselves.

So what you're saying is essentially that US will only attack in Taiwan and around Taiwan, not expand the scope of the war just like Russia didn't attack Ukraine friendly assets directly helping Ukraine from the outside. And in exchange, the idea would be that China would also restrain itself to not start attacking outside Taiwan. It's an interesting idea, but also very hard to say if both extremely opposing governments can really find enough common ground to hold a gentleman's agreement like that.

The thing about the Ukraine war is that it's the Russian military's overwhelming power that lets them restrain Ukraine to mostly being in the Donbass. Ukraine is constantly actually trying to expand the war, it's just mostly not working due to strategic logistics and tactical concerns.

Since US doesn't have that overwhelming military power and even further if they limit themselves in the conflict which exacebrates their lack of airbases compared to China, I don't think the gentleman's agreement will hold.

I mean if you think about it, if Ukraine had more than half of whole Russian navy VLS count but all concentrated in the black sea, had the ability to take out Russian theater airbases 24/7 and has local superiority in airforce numbers etc. I don't think Ukraine would agree to only fighting in the Donbass. Them being limited there currently is more a function of their weakness than the success of the Ukraine model as a "safe" proxy war.

I would switch up your analogy a bit. Ukraine would be Taiwan, China would be Russia, and NATO would be US + Japan + Phillipines.

What Ukraine or TW *wants* to do is irrelevant. They can only do what China and US allows them to do. It's in the best interest of both China and US to keep AR contained. If US attacks Mainland, then it's WW3, guaranteed. This would severely damage US interests in other areas of the world. We can roughly rank US interests as follows: Israel > Taiwan > Ukraine. Losing TW would be bad, but fighting WW3 with China would be far worse for the American empire, whatever the outcome.
 

Biscuits

Major
Registered Member
I would switch up your analogy a bit. Ukraine would be Taiwan, China would be Russia, and NATO would be US + Japan + Phillipines.

What Ukraine or TW *wants* to do is irrelevant. They can only do what China and US allows them to do. It's in the best interest of both China and US to keep AR contained. If US attacks Mainland, then it's WW3, guaranteed. This would severely damage US interests in other areas of the world. We can roughly rank US interests as follows: Israel > Taiwan > Ukraine. Losing TW would be bad, but fighting WW3 with China would be far worse for the American empire, whatever the outcome.
That's not an applicable analogy because Ukraine is an actual country with a numerically vast and quite decent equipped military not far behind the Russian one in many ways. KMT has nearly nothing. The power balance for them vs Beijing might be even worse than for the LDPR against vs Kiev.

There's a reason why Russia stepped in with a full scale invasion. Because if Russia had let LDPR take the fight alone with just some ISR and volunteer support from Russia, the huge AFU would have swarmed the LDPR and killed everyone in a few months tops, if not weeks.

The same applies to Taiwan, the only alternative for US is full scale invasion, using all their F-35s, F-22s, most of their navy, air defenses, most of their marines etc. Otherwise Lai will get removed faster than Assad the moment the conflict unfreezes and it will just be a dumb humiliation for US that put its words behind "Taiwan annexation" yet completely failed to deliver.
 

solarz

Brigadier
That's not an applicable analogy because Ukraine is an actual country with a numerically vast and quite decent equipped military not far behind the Russian one in many ways. KMT has nearly nothing. The power balance for them vs Beijing might be even worse than for the LDPR against vs Kiev.

There's a reason why Russia stepped in with a full scale invasion. Because if Russia had let LDPR take the fight alone with just some ISR and volunteer support from Russia, the huge AFU would have swarmed the LDPR and killed everyone in a few months tops, if not weeks.

The same applies to Taiwan, the only alternative for US is full scale invasion, using all their F-35s, F-22s, most of their navy, air defenses, most of their marines etc. Otherwise Lai will get removed faster than Assad the moment the conflict unfreezes and it will just be a dumb humiliation for US that put its words behind "Taiwan annexation" yet completely failed to deliver.

Perhaps, but I think the US sees it differently. They've been pushing the "partisan resistance" narrative on TW, which shows that they think TW can hold out against the PLA, giving them a chance to bleed China.
 

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
Staff member
Moderator - World Affairs
Perhaps, but I think the US sees it differently. They've been pushing the "partisan resistance" narrative on TW, which shows that they think TW can hold out against the PLA, giving them a chance to bleed China.
What happen if the PLA just blockades the island and doesn't land any troops? With all infrastructure destroyed, what can the ROC troops or "partisans" do?
 

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
Staff member
Moderator - World Affairs
We get to broadcast heroic Taiwanese efforts for the next two years as we try to rally the world to embargo China.
Taiwan Island imports 2/3 of its caloric intake. They wouldn't last more than a month. Even if they have stocked up food beforehand, they can't distribute them because fuel depots are destroyed, and they can't cook them because power plants are destroyed.
 

Xiongmao

Junior Member
Registered Member
Taiwan Island imports 2/3 of its caloric intake. They wouldn't last more than a month. Even if they have stocked up food beforehand, they can't distribute them because fuel depots are destroyed, and they can't cook them because power plants are destroyed.
Is there a fifth column in Taiwan and how big is the membership?
 

HighGround

Senior Member
Registered Member
Taiwan Island imports 2/3 of its caloric intake. They wouldn't last more than a month. Even if they have stocked up food beforehand, they can't distribute them because fuel depots are destroyed, and they can't cook them because power plants are destroyed.
I know, but you asked what would happen. Propaganda blaring is what would happen. I don't think US is insane enough to try some fucked up version of the Berlin airlift.

IMO, in an event of an AR event, I don't think a blockade is likely. I personally don't see PLA allowing United States to simply gather forces for a more protracted conflict. Either you go all in, or you don't.
 
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