PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

manqiangrexue

manqiangrexue

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FairAndUnbiased said:
There will be plenty of potential for internal saboteurs during a Taiwan contingency. Taiwan and some countries have been training militants for a long time and will be activating them when hostilities break out.

Activities could include anything from anti war demonstrations to internal spies sabotaging power, water, communication, etc to internally launched FPV drone attacks and recon/target designation.
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Actually I think we have their number on that. The CCP agents in the ROC would be much more instrumental to the war than ROC agents in the mainland. Because of China's size, all of our systems are double or triple overlapped so that issues with one can be saved with neighboring system. Taiwan is too small to have that. And also, have an anti-war demonstration during a fight over Taiwan?? Whomever stupid enough to show up to that will need the police to save them from being stomped to death by the crowd. Honestly, if the PLA is at war taking Taiwan and you have a sign that suggests Taiwan should be allowed to go independent, it's probably operationally legal to kill you in China. The police, seeing the clip, won't investigate and will call it death by natural causes, specifically, spontaneous skull implosion.
FairAndUnbiased said:
The time to clear out saboteurs is before they are activated.
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I don't think that's realisitic. First of all, planted moles are difficult to catch when they have no reason to expose themselves. Secondly, you can never be sure you got them all. We cannot delay war for this. If we have to fight, we push forward whenever we need to. As for the sabateurs, they activate theirs and we activate ours. We depend on overlapping ability and maximal security to stave off any significant effect and use their heightened activity to catch them as they expose themselves.
 
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lcloo

lcloo

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The best peaceful strategy for re-unification is to increase people to people exchanges between Taiwan and Mainland, but this is only possible if KMT regained power in Taiwan.

The next one would be to repeat the 1949 Beiping (today's Beijing) liberation with-out fighting. This would need cooperation between PLA and ROC senior commanders who are KMT supporters. This is not far-fetch as many have suspected that there are moles in ROC high commands who despised DPP, and are pro reunification with Mainland.

Not that there won't be any battles but if a good portion of ROC military changing side, the remaining ROC military won't hold their positions for long. And if Mainland can assure peace can be quickly restored, the civilians in Taiwan would prefer joining PRC, that is, after their brain-washed views (thro education and green camp media propaganda) have cleared out.

In terms of military ROC is no match for PLA as everyone knows. The most important matter is the mind set of the island people to accept that re-unification cannot be stopped, and to die for lost cause is stupid. What is going to happen after the expected short war is more important as it can have a long lasting effect on post-war administration of Taiwan.
 
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kkwan18

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meez said:
Like what star wars plan of us ?? This all abm interceptor thing sound great but has no real use in in military cuz it is unproven and experience let me tell you something 100 billion dollars for like 66 gbi interceptor which has low sucess rate do you think it is good to build such abm wall without great pain to a nation?
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Did you not see the Chinese tested the D31AG?
 
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meez

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What has df 31 has to do with it gbi is designed for any icbm but it's interception rate is low just like any other interceptor so what is your point that china tested this missile to prove something it's just a icbm test or simply a routine test flight
 
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manqiangrexue said:
Actually I think we have their number on that. The CCP agents in the ROC would be much more instrumental to the war than ROC agents in the mainland. Because of China's size, all of our systems are double or triple overlapped so that issues with one can be saved with neighboring system. Taiwan is too small to have that. And also, have an anti-war demonstration during a fight over Taiwan?? Whomever stupid enough to show up to that will need the police to save them from being stomped to death by the crowd. Honestly, if the PLA is at war taking Taiwan and you have a sign that suggests Taiwan should be allowed to go independent, it's probably operationally legal to kill you in China. The police, seeing the clip, won't investigate and will call it death by natural causes, specifically, spontaneous skull implosion.

I don't think that's realisitic. First of all, planted moles are difficult to catch when they have no reason to expose themselves. Secondly, you can never be sure you got them all. We cannot delay war for this. If we have to fight, we push forward whenever we need to. As for the sabateurs, they activate theirs and we activate ours. We depend on overlapping ability and maximal security to stave off any significant effect and use their heightened activity to catch them as they expose themselves.
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It's not simply about overlapping systems but more that China is fighting for what it considers the defense of its homes, and also that the Chinese intelligence/network/surveillance system is a closed loop.

It's the same problem faced by Hamas infiltrators in Israel.

Getting in moles is possible, although maybe harder for ROC because they don't have a west bank equivalent that land borders PRC, but nonetheless possible. However the mole will just be instantly dogpiled the moment they reveal themselves. The most they can hope for is to knife/shoot some complete randoms if even that.

Also China has a very tight interior security and among if not the best intel agency in the world. Maybe if China mobilizes, there will be some excess guns/explosives on the street, but I really doubt it will ever reach the same levels of black market arms dealing as even Israel. They should have things more locked down.
 
Randomuser

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lcloo said:
The best peaceful strategy for re-unification is to increase people to people exchanges between Taiwan and Mainland, but this is only possible if KMT regained power in Taiwan.

The next one would be to repeat the 1949 Beiping (today's Beijing) liberation with-out fighting. This would need cooperation between PLA and ROC senior commanders who are KMT supporters. This is not far-fetch as many have suspected that there are moles in ROC high commands who despised DPP, and are pro reunification with Mainland.

Not that there won't be any battles but if a good portion of ROC military changing side, the remaining ROC military won't hold their positions for long. And if Mainland can assure peace can be quickly restored, the civilians in Taiwan would prefer joining PRC, that is, after their brain-washed views (thro education and green camp media propaganda) have cleared out.

In terms of military ROC is no match for PLA as everyone knows. The most important matter is the mind set of the island people to accept that re-unification cannot be stopped, and to die for lost cause is stupid. What is going to happen after the expected short war is more important as it can have a long lasting effect on post-war administration of Taiwan.
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Im kinda tired of trusting the ROC. They seems to have a habit of choking when it counts the most. First they lost the mainland and now they lost the island.

Whats even more annoying is we have all these DPP guys going on how great they were and how mainlanders are barbarians when in fact a huge chunk of why Taiwan is even relevant is due to those mainlanders. Morris Chang of TSMC was born in Zhejiang and didn't even go to Taiwan until he was an adult. A lot of those significant Taiwan intellectual figures you look at their profile and find out their granddad or something was an official back in the mainland.
 
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