manqiangrexue
Brigadier
It's as close as it gets; we act as we do no matter what ships they send out. They didn't send any kind of destroyer, etc... the closest to a military/naval vessel are these 2 navy-operated supply vessels. At least I didn't use the example of a warship grounded on the beach to show how we don't ram, block or water cannon lighthouses. If you wanna show that China treats Philippino naval ships differently from coast guard ships, you need to compare incidences between the 2 to show how China behaves differently in similar situations because the the status of the Philippino vessel.
OK, there is no reading comprehension issue on my part (interesting how you basically copy whatever I say to you...) but the issue is actually that you confused yourself on what this was about. You said that Chinese ships do whatever they want with Philippino coast guard ships but thread carefully with their naval vessels. What incident leads you to believe that China threads carefully when those pop gun ships are around?
It was an aside to you getting so emotional that you wrote nonsense like entertainment being an emotion.
Unfortunately, you tried to apply facts to the scenario but always failed to draw the correct parallels, such as the time you compared a grounded ship to a sailing one and when you said that the US could not respond to Houthi attacks at sea except they bombed the houthis on land, making the comparision utterly pointless. They are facts, but you cannot interpret them usefully.
I'm emotional because I'm telling you that you're not going to "cuck" the US navy by seizing ships under their active protection? Why is that my emotion? Am I American? NO, I'd love to see China do what you want to see but it's not realistic at all. Your plan for the US to gloat on its FONOPS and China to gloat on seizing ships that are shadowed by the 7th fleet is a deal made between you and you; not the US, not China. You wrote what you wanted to see, not what was possible. That's emotional. I'm never emotional when vouching for American power; it's me at my most bleakest admittance of our current limits, that we're not yet in prime position to kick the US off if its throne.
Kinmen is not the only part that China claims. They can do that anywhere they have an open sea advantage; they can do it like they were doing FONOPS. China doesn't start shooting for those; it's just the history between China and the US.
No, it's common sense. If Chinese vessels attempt to seize an ROC vessel and the US ships come up to block their path, they can either abort or ram... unless they wanna shoot. That's it.
You say it's their fault; they say they're not aggressive since they're sailing in ROC territorial seas and you rammed them as they blocked your attempt to seize an ROC vessel. You say it's their fault and they say its your fault.
What does this even mean? Nothing needs to be very deep into China's territorial waters if they're doing a FONOPS-like demo and blocking a seizure attempt only requires about 2 ships, left and right.
Yeah, and the PLAN will treat the US ships like they do in the SCS.
What you asked for and what you need are different, unfortunately. It's not more methods, but you needed enlightenment on how the 3 methods could be used, and apparently, how Chinese and US forces treat each other outside of your imagination. In other words, the scope of the argument is not confined to where you wish.
We're actually not counting any of them, because like your "cuck the USN" scenarios, those are all either in your imagination and/or due to your misinterpretation as always.
What does this mean? I don't even read Taiwanese media; I got it only from English sources. There were none others contradicting it at the time.
I'll give you this one; I am shocked, pleasantly shocked that the Kinmen authorities charged the ROC Coast Guards at all. The official ROC statement is that they did no wrong and next time, they are to use lethal force. How would anyone guess they would 180 and blame their own coast guards now? I wonder if the ROC government will intervene and overrule the charges brought by the local Kinmen government. If not, then they are really much much softer than I had imagined and what they give off. If a foreign ship enters your territorial seas and then attempts to flee, then ramming them after they refuse to stop is the correct action. I'd support it if a Chinese Coast Guard ship did this to the vessel of any hostile nation challenging our rule over our seas. If the ROC government charges these men with wrongdoing, they are kinda admitting that they recognize that they don't own, or at least don't exclusively own these areas. They would use some excuse like breech of protocol but the big jist is that they're acknowledging China's right to be there. Now that's a major retreat to Chinese reunification efforts. It seems to good to be true. If they actually get convicted, then I'd say that's a major milestone to the final goal and a signal that they are getting ripe for the picking.
That said, 4 men aren't worth anything compared to successful salami slicing of the area. If they're doing this as a peace offering for us to stop slicing, we're got to keep pushing forth.
