PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

ACuriousPLAFan

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You know well enough that turning Japan into a province is simply going to create more issues in the mid to long run. If you are insistent on that approach then you do what the Americans did by making them a vassal. Don’t even get started on foreign covert operations to drain significant resources from China year after year to quell any issues arising from that island.
Of course.

China should learn from the Americans, which are grand masters at doing this sort of stuff - Dismantle the old system, and replace it with a new one from the top-down.

Purge all the present elites. Jail and/or execute all the ultranationalists and war criminals. Infiltrate every single layer of local and federal governance with agents and loyalists. Control and puppet the government, mass media and the web. Encourage and embed pro-China cultures and influences across all aspects of the life of all Japanese people.
 

tankphobia

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Isn't this just a think tank simulation instead of an actual governmental simulation? Why get so bent out of shape over the theoretical? It is in their best interest to go to the most extreme scenario instantly to get more funding.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Since there is no more information about the Military simulation held by JFSS in 2023, I continue to translate the summary of the contents of the simulation in 2022 by "Two Tailed Comet".
Part of the content comes from Weibo.
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List of participants for 2021. The left side indicates the role they played in the simulation. It can be seen that the participants are not civilians, most of whom are politicians and retired generals.
The focus of the simulation is not to determine the direction and outcome of the Taiwan Strait crisis, but to simulate Japan's internal response mechanism to the Taiwan Strait crisis.

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The simulation in August 2022 was influenced by the Ukrainian war, making Japan's decisions more extreme and radical.
This part of the video no longer describes the specific process, but focuses on Japanese decision-making.

1、This simulation envisions a conflict breaking out in 2027, and China has established a comprehensive military advantage over the United States, including nuclear weapons.
2、Japan assumed that China would adopt the strategy of "limited nuclear war" and use Tactical nuclear weapon to deter the United States and prevent the war from escalating into a full-scale nuclear war.
3、No longer envisioning "internal problems" in China, and China will have the ability to launch a large-scale public opinion offensive against Japan to trigger anti war within Japan.
4、However, even if the US military loses its advantage and there is a strong anti war sentiment within Japan, the Japanese government still insists on confrontation.
5、Assuming that China will expand the "exercise area" to the Ryukyu Islands, Japan will not shrink, and will be ready for a military confrontation on the Diaoyu Islands.
6、Japan will not participate in US military operations in the South China Sea. They will concentrate all their efforts to defend Japan's homeland and abandon the unrealistic plan of "using force to rescue overseas Japanese". Japan's military forces will be fully concentrated in the East China Sea region.
7、In the 2021 simulation, Japan would passively intervene in conflicts at the request of the Americans, but in 2022, Japan chose to actively intervene. Even without the support of the United States, conflicts around the Diaoyu Islands will be regarded as "aggression against Japan". Japan will require the United States to fulfill its obligations under the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security between the United States and Japan and let the United States participate in the war at all costs.
Japan will send warships to the Diaoyu Islands to proactively escalate the scale of the confrontation.
8、The Taiwan Strait crisis will be seen as a major threat to Japan's survival, and on this basis, Japan will demand maximum assistance from the United States.
9、Japan plans to abrogate(If conflict breaks out) the Japan–China Joint Communiqué of 1972 on the ground that "China undermines the stability of the Taiwan Strait".
10、After the conflict broke out, Japan planned to move the residents of the Ryukyu Islands to Japan's main island.
11、Japan's economy will enter the mobilization mode, stop all foreign aid and issue emergency treasury bond.
12、The United States is required to deploy mid-range missile and nuclear weapons as soon as possible. At the same time, it is up to the Prime Minister to decide whether to abolish the principle of no nuclear weapons.
13、Protect the submarine communications cable leading to Taiwan Island from being cut off, and strengthen domestic security at the same time. If necessary, monitor and control the 790000 Chinese people operating in Japan.
14、Japan will demand that the United States place Taiwan under nuclear protection.

——The anchor believes that the experience of the Ukrainian war indicates that the possibility of Americans being driven into passivity by "allies" exists, and the strong anti Russian sentiment in Eastern Europe allows them to threaten the United States to choose between "aid or loss of credibility" through public opinion and diplomatic pressure. So Japan can also adopt the same approach to force Americans to passively participate in the war.
It can be predicted that Japan's policies in the future will be more radical, and the policy restrictions on JSDF will be lifted to develop and produce Offensive weapon. When facing severe internal social problems, the Japanese government is highly likely to choose military adventures.
This only proves that Japan is escalating in their insanity.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Isn't this just a think tank simulation instead of an actual governmental simulation? Why get so bent out of shape over the theoretical? It is in their best interest to go to the most extreme scenario instantly to get more funding.
Think tanks reflect what governments want. How come no Japanese think tanks are talking about switching sides to China? Because the government doesn't want that.
 

tankphobia

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Think tanks reflect what governments want. How come no Japanese think tanks are talking about switching sides to China? Because the government doesn't want that.
So I did some digging and this writer is part of the thinktank in question and their piece regarding the stimulation. Discarding the anti-China rhetoric, there doesn't seem to be anything especially concrete regarding their actions and it's outcomes other than expected things such as PLA occupied diaoyu island and shot down a bunch of communication satellites.

However the simulation was indeed ran by high ranking or former high level Japanese military and civilian governmental personnel, but the specific of the scenarios are not given, the wording had made it seem that China was the initial aggressor in all scenarios.

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Biscuits

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Think tanks reflect what governments want. How come no Japanese think tanks are talking about switching sides to China? Because the government doesn't want that.
Not always tbh.

Japan has a problem with ultra nationalistic ex military personnel. They're even more vocal and way way less realistic than the old guard imperialists that are in charge of the country.

I think there is a fairly high risk of a Japanese attack on Taiwan, as long as US is the main attacker and Japan just mostly stays behind.

But the risk of a nuclear attack on Taiwan or somewhere else in China is really low, non existent even.

The lowest of the IJA scum dream about acquiring WMDs to use on China, because that's the only way they can ever manage to inflict significant damage on China again. This, they believe, will somehow satiate their raging inferiority complex.

But in reality, they don't have any rational plans other than emotional thinking. Using nukes on Taiwan or the mainland will lead to all Japan being exterminated to the last.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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So I did some digging and this writer is part of the thinktank in question and their piece regarding the stimulation. Discarding the anti-China rhetoric, there doesn't seem to be anything especially concrete regarding their actions and it's outcomes other than expected things such as PLA occupied diaoyu island and shot down a bunch of communication satellites.

However the simulation was indeed ran by high ranking or former high level Japanese military and civilian governmental personnel, but the specific of the scenarios are not given, the wording had made it seem that China was the initial aggressor in all scenarios.

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They are imagining China to do stupid yet aggressive things instead of smartly brutal things.

Example: they say they want to evacuate Okinawa civilians. Why would they get the chance to evacuate Okinawa? If China is going to invade Ryukyu, then how are they going to evacuate the people when there's a shooting war going on and civil airliners can easily be mistaken for AWACs? Nobody will believe an airliner with a civil beacon. How will they ship civilians back to Japan even by boat? What's the consequences of millions of internal refugees in Japan?

They don't want to talk about that because they don't want to think about the actual worst case scenario where the PLA is not only stronger but absolutely brutal and ruthless.

The PLA does. In its war games it makes the other side much more powerful, smart and ruthless.

A war game where you have to impose limits on how badly you can lose or have the enemy make stupid decisions is worse than worthless, it is literal copium.
 

tankphobia

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They are imagining China to do stupid yet aggressive things instead of smartly brutal things.

Example: they say they want to evacuate Okinawa civilians. Why would they get the chance to evacuate Okinawa? If China is going to invade Ryukyu, then how are they going to evacuate the people when there's a shooting war going on and civil airliners can easily be mistaken for AWACs? Nobody will believe an airliner with a civil beacon. How will they ship civilians back to Japan even by boat? What's the consequences of millions of internal refugees in Japan?

They don't want to talk about that because they don't want to think about the actual worst case scenario where the PLA is not only stronger but absolutely brutal and ruthless.

The PLA does. In its war games it makes the other side much more powerful, smart and ruthless.

A war game where you have to impose limits on how badly you can lose or have the enemy make stupid decisions is worse than worthless, it is literal copium.
Definitely, the author did seem a bit off the rails when reading the article, it's not a surprise regarding the content the thinktank produce if this is the best they can do to publicize their findings.
 

vincent

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Example: they say they want to evacuate Okinawa civilians. Why would they get the chance to evacuate Okinawa? If China is going to invade Ryukyu, then how are they going to evacuate the people when there's a shooting war going on and civil airliners can easily be mistaken for AWACs? Nobody will believe an airliner with a civil beacon. How will they ship civilians back to Japan even by boat? What's the consequences of millions of internal refugees in Japan?
I suspect they are building the case for more LHD and the expansion of Japanese navy
 
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