Assuming what you described is true, how does the American ISR find targets for them?
PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency
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It is a subsonic cruise missile. Unless the formation runs out of AAMs or the sheer number coming in at once is extremely high, area defense DDGs could keep shooting them down all day.
There will also be CAP to help defend the island and its surroundings as the first line of defense during an American attack.
To launch these missiles in the first place usually requires the presence of some easily detectable aircraft, which we must assume is protected by the invader's own 5th gen, that will not be easily seen. However, PLAAF has 300km class AAM that can be lobbed at the enemy non stealth targets, as well as ability to simply fight 5th gen vs 5th gen.
While the threat of an US massed missile attack is defintely real, the US state article is near 100% propaganda for domestic copium purposes only. Calculating based on arbitrary values on weapons that don't have the capability, assuming basically the whole PLA air and navy takes a day off and lets US attack while sending amphibious ships only. It is about as qualitative as Russian projections that they would take Ukraine in 3 days.
American Dungeons and dragons games made PLA utterly defeated, I believe taking Taiwan Island was possible by PLA in previous decade, in 2026 there will be probably 500 J-20 I wonder if these Dungeon and dragons games put even 200 at that time.
Let them eat that copium and do more roll dice. I wonder what @Patchwork_Chimera would say about that report, ofc. only open source.
Let them eat that copium and do more roll dice. I wonder what @Patchwork_Chimera would say about that report, ofc. only open source.
Your argument would probably be better served without invoking CMANO lol.
Still beats trying to war game with a board game and a dice
You can learn a lot from it as a novice, going from "Country A have 10 more fighters so they win" to "what do you mean my aircraft is not ready ?" and "Why cant i park all my planes on the closest runway?"
From an article published on October 29, 2021 :
During a town hall last week, when asked whether America would defend Taiwan against a Chinese assault, President Joe Biden answered: “yes.” In response, China’s foreign ministry stated unambiguously that, to prevent the loss of Taiwan, Beijing is prepared to go to war. If China were to attack Taiwan, and the United States sent military forces to Taiwan’s defense, could the United States lose a war with China?
When current Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks and her fellow members of the National Defense Strategy Review Commission examined this question in 2018, they concluded: maybe. In their words, America “might struggle to win, or perhaps lose a war against China.” As they explained, if in response to a provocative move by Taiwan, China were to launch an attack to take control of that island that is as close to its mainland as Cuba is to the United States, it might succeed before the U.S. military could move enough assets into the region to matter. As former Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral James Winnefeld and former CIA Acting Director Michael Morell wrote last year, China has the capability to deliver a fait accompli to Taiwan before Washington would be able to decide how to respond.
Former Deputy Secretary of Defense Bob Work, who served under three Secretaries before retiring in 2017, has been even more explicit. As he has stated publicly, in the most realistic war games the Pentagon has been able to design simulating war over Taiwan, the score is eighteen to zero. And the eighteen is not Team USA.
During a town hall last week, when asked whether America would defend Taiwan against a Chinese assault, President Joe Biden answered: “yes.” In response, China’s foreign ministry stated unambiguously that, to prevent the loss of Taiwan, Beijing is prepared to go to war. If China were to attack Taiwan, and the United States sent military forces to Taiwan’s defense, could the United States lose a war with China?
When current Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks and her fellow members of the National Defense Strategy Review Commission examined this question in 2018, they concluded: maybe. In their words, America “might struggle to win, or perhaps lose a war against China.” As they explained, if in response to a provocative move by Taiwan, China were to launch an attack to take control of that island that is as close to its mainland as Cuba is to the United States, it might succeed before the U.S. military could move enough assets into the region to matter. As former Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral James Winnefeld and former CIA Acting Director Michael Morell wrote last year, China has the capability to deliver a fait accompli to Taiwan before Washington would be able to decide how to respond.
Former Deputy Secretary of Defense Bob Work, who served under three Secretaries before retiring in 2017, has been even more explicit. As he has stated publicly, in the most realistic war games the Pentagon has been able to design simulating war over Taiwan, the score is eighteen to zero. And the eighteen is not Team USA.
The major problem with the report is political, not technical. In their base case scenario, the US is fighting from day 1, which isn't very realistic in a surprise attack. If the US were ready and willing to fight, of course China wouldn't launch an invasion immediately. In their "Taiwan stands alone" scenario, the whole south up to Taichung is liberated in 42 days. Taipei could fight on to the last man, but would probably surrender at that point.
They also consider the scenario that the US only gets involved 14 days after the beginning of hostilities, which is much more likely if we're talking about a Chinese surprise attack. They don't discuss the results from that scenario, unfortunately.
If the PLA can take everything from Kaohsiung to Taichung in 14 days, there will be no American involvement. If China looks weak and struggles to take any major territory, they will try to strike.
Evidence points to the AUKUS and its Japanese auxilia escalating the possibility of invading Chinese territory (contested or not)
If that is the case, I will armed ALL ships with 6-7 mach long range hypersonic missile including frigate, coastal ships, cargo ships.
produce thousands of drones equipped with hypersonic missile.
basically everything long range hypersonic.. all fighter jets with hypersonic missile too..
China can produce hypersonic missile on a budget so this is a great strat.
assuming 5-10 hypersonic missiles are used to knock out a warship on average, it is still cheaper than the cost of ship itself.