PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

james smith esq

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With the latest ramblings from Taiwan, I’m thinkin’ that a massive decapitation strike might be the optimal Taiwan strategy; just eliminate the political and military leadership from the outset!
 

Biscuits

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A lesson China should learn from the current war unfolding, is how Ukrainian abuse of the Donbass population caused the LDPR to rise up with hundreds of thousands, carrying Russian forces which hasn't put up the best performance when fighting solo, but have consistently won victories side by side with LDPR soldiers.

Promising lasting peace, political participation, freedom from foreign interference, increased economic freedom, guarantees of non-discrimination, Beijing should give as much assurances as possible in order to prevent stoking the flames of separatism.

On the other hand, there must be clear penalties and sanctions against traitors.

Although there are ways the Chinese civil war could flare up into ww3 and even thermonuclear war (if certain world domination seeking countries use it as a pretext to invade), I see it primarily as a political problem that should be solved politically.
 

zhangjim

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Back on topic, who else besides me thinks that if Japan intervenes in a China reunification scenario then it's time for the War to Resist Japan and Aid the Ryukyus? I think the PRC has decent capability for that now and will be well equipped for it in 5 to 10 years.
There are high-quality videos here, but I don't know if there is a language barrier.
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These two programs give a systematic account of this possibility.
In a sense, the JSDF is worse than the Taiwan Army:Japan has no mobilization system at all.
These ambitions mean a huge defense budget,can the Japanese still raise the consumption tax to 100%?
Moreover, Japan has more coastlines to land on, so it has no preventive capability at all.
The intervention forces that Japan can quickly deploy are also limited.

Of course, considering that Japan has a strong adventurism tendency, they may make a chaotic raid after acquiring offensive weapons.

I read a Japanese comic book. The author, whimsically, asked the Japanese to invite Chinese leaders to the negotiating conference, and suddenly arrested him and seized the nuclear code box.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Can't remember where I heard this, but someone told me the first use policy doesn't apply to Japan.
That one is actually fake. Remember this video?
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Bora Tas made an excellent rebuttal of said video and claims on Quora:
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Someone else I know did one as well:
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wxw456

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Taiwan's armed forces envision using these concrete buildings as fortresses and installing unmanned battery.
The lower right-hand corner depicts the specific force use scheme,but it will take time for Taiwanese to get M1 tanks.
There is a tank company, a mechanized infantry battalion, two reserve infantry battalions, two anti armour companies and an air defense company.
In addition, the author seems to believe that ballistic missiles are difficult to destroy these numerous and solid civil buildings.
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They will counterattack with maneuverable anti-ship missiles.
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So the revolutionary idea being proposed is ... bunkers. Not even real bunkers but using civilian buildings as bunkers. Bunker buster bombs exist and as far as I am aware concrete civilian buildings do not have at least 2 meters of reinforced concrete necessary to stop large explosives. Ballistic missiles pack enough explosives to take down civilian buildings even if they are built from concrete.

The focus on ballistic missiles is also strange. Cruise missiles are the more likely munition to be employed. Nowadays some of the long range rockets for MRL systems are also capable of crossing the strait with 360 km range.

So the next step proposed is to put stationary tanks in "bunkers"/civilian buildings. Thereby turning the tanks into immobile guns (Did everyone forget the memo on Desert Storm?). There is also no guarantee the civilian buildings being repurposed even have a good line of sight or firing angles. At this point saying indirect artillery fire will stop a beach landing is more believable. That is to say all this seems more achievable and realistic with dispersed artillery than some MBT "wunderwaffe" scenario.

Let me guess the author also skipped the airforce part and assumed there was no airforce in the equation? Everyone of these fictional scenarios always handwaves the airforce part away. There's also no explanation about how they plan on acquiring a targeting solution for the anti-ship missiles (assuming the batteries are even operating) or is it just going to be a blind volley launch at a probable area with targets? It is also telling that no ship-launched or air-launched anti-ship missiles are depicted.

But the biggest problem is budget related. How the heck is this going to be funded? The whole spiel about civilian buildings being converted to "bunkers" sounds like somebody who can't actually afford to build bunkers everywhere. Ballooning the military budget to fund everything is just going to turn into a USSR 2.0 scenario.

Can we stop with the bad comic takes now?
 

zhangjim

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This has got to be one of the most hilarious kinds of fantasy lalaland that said author can come up with.

Personally I don't think China would not have a presidental line of succession akin to that of the USA in place, in case of national emergency. I suppose that it wasn't announced to the public on the grounds of national security.

If the President of the PRC is somehow rendered incapable of upholding his duty as the commander-in-chief of the PRC, there is the Politburo Standing Committee or the State Council who would have someone else that would take over the role as Acting President of the PRC, and would have ordered counterstrikes against said foreign forces that rendered the initial President of the PRC incapable of doing his duties.
I read some knowledge about “Perimeter(dead hand system)”,I believe that although Japan has been hit by nuclear weapons, it does not understand the true meaning of nuclear deterrence.
From a certain point of view, this is very dangerous. There are cartoonists in Japan who are creating works that Japan has nuclear powered aircraft carriers and even nuclear weapons, but they are delusional like children.
This naive idea makes it very dangerous for them to control nuclear weapons.
So the next step proposed is to put stationary tanks in "bunkers"/civilian buildings. Thereby turning the tanks into immobile guns (Did everyone forget the memo on Desert Storm?). There is also no guarantee the civilian buildings being repurposed even have a good line of sight or firing angles. At this point saying indirect artillery fire will stop a beach landing is more believable. That is to say all this seems more achievable and realistic with dispersed artillery than some MBT "wunderwaffe" scenario.
According to the description of the cartoon, the Taiwanese army's idea is to use the underground garage to move between blocks, but I think they do not consider the weight of the M1 tank.
 

wxw456

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According to the description of the cartoon, the Taiwanese army's idea is to use the underground garage to move between blocks, but I think they do not consider the weight of the M1 tank.
You can't shoot from an underground garage and you can't drive from an underground garage to the first floor without going out on the street. None of this makes sense even assuming there are underground garages available. Are we also supposed to believe that buildings never collapse when fired upon?

Can we stop this? Just use artillery instead of trying to move tanks between underground garages. This all simply sounds like a glorified ad for M1A1 MBTs.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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I read some knowledge about “Perimeter(dead hand system)”,I believe that although Japan has been hit by nuclear weapons, it does not understand the true meaning of nuclear deterrence.
Perimeter dead-hand system was operated by the former Soviet Union, and could very well still being operated by Russia today. Not sure whether China maintains the same system or not, but that's beyond the scope of this answer.

From a certain point of view, this is very dangerous. There are cartoonists in Japan who are creating works that Japan has nuclear powered aircraft carriers and even nuclear weapons, but they are delusional like children.
This naive idea makes it very dangerous for them to control nuclear weapons.
Sometimes you just can't fathom the ludicrosity of people like these.
 
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