PLA Small arms

Doombreed

Junior Member
Your guess is as good as anyones. My guess it at this point the PLA is trying to teach a more Shoot form the hip mentality where the Shooter is supposed to more aline there Eyes to the sight rather then there sights to there eyes.

God I hope you're joking.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
God I hope you're joking.

I do to. But the placement of the sights the latest other weapons that they seem to have produced the Latest type 56 upgrade. I think they still have a lot left over form the Direct Russian military influence in Marksmanship. The Shoulder low Aim high.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Not really. sure they fixed The poorly placed Safety/selector. However the Charging handle is awkward, All the Surfaces are to smooth for a real grip, Cheek weld is a joke. Sights are way to high and, any added sighting system compounds that.
 

by78

General
Not really. sure they fixed The poorly placed Safety/selector. However the Charging handle is awkward, All the Surfaces are to smooth for a real grip, Cheek weld is a joke. Sights are way to high and, any added sighting system compounds that.

It's a mystery why the PLA is sticking with the carrying handle on their bullpups. It's not like they couldn't live without it, since they armed themselves with AK derivatives for decades.
 

MwRYum

Major
Since this year's PLA HK Garrison is so far limited in terms of new stuff, and all that's newly displayed were small arms, so I'd use this thread...now, since Imageshack no longer free and photobucket have limited flow, bear with me for using Google Drive...

QSZ-11 pistol

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This should tells you how small that pistol is:

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Impression: a modern-day Makarov pistol, light and compact, single row magazine, 8+1 capacity, wooden grip, recoil spring is quite stiff to cock it and probably because of that, the slide release somewhat less responsive than my liking...hopefully that's a "new gun" thing, not part of the design.
 

MwRYum

Major
QLG10A underslung grenade launcher

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You might notice that this time they show the whole package sans the flashlight and laser aiming device attachments. According to the soldier on site, he said the new scope is more accurate than the old one.

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MwRYum

Major
QBU10 12.7mm anti-materiel rifle

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Impression: this definitely no lightweight...

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I'm just 160cm tall and this thing is almost my height.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
note the wooden grips. This strikes me for potential plain Clothes MP a bodyguard may be a aviator some one for whom the full service pistol might be a bit obtrusive. Some times even Ranking officers. which might be this things end user.
QLG10A underslung grenade launcher


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I am sorry Mwryum but this makes no sense as a Flashlight mount. A small reflex optic with a laser is what this is. Placing a Flashlight there would be ridiculous the mount swivels so your light would be out of place. if you used it for CQ and if you tried to use the light to Aim the Grenade it would also be a fail as the light would probably not cast a spot past 20 meters. a red dot with a laser is thee best bet it would be swiveled to aim. and if you look at this picture there even seems to be some reflection form glass at the back of the larger tube.
QBU10 12.7mm anti-materiel rifle


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This Scope looks like the same one from Mace's "Sniper Grenade launcher"
Mwryum You seem to have had a little play time with it What is it? my guess is a range finder like the MEPRO MESLAS
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But not as advanced as the Tracking point system

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A feature I strongly Do not approve of Right here! just begging for debris to screw up the magazine
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Just for fun I love the Splitter pattern!
 

MwRYum

Major
note the wooden grips. This strikes me for potential plain Clothes MP a bodyguard may be a aviator some one for whom the full service pistol might be a bit obtrusive. Some times even Ranking officers. which might be this things end user.
It does say for regiment commanders and above, personal protection details, scouts, as well as self-defence sidearm for aviators and cosmonauts.

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I am sorry Mwryum but this makes no sense as a Flashlight mount. A small reflex optic with a laser is what this is. Placing a Flashlight there would be ridiculous the mount swivels so your light would be out of place. if you used it for CQ and if you tried to use the light to Aim the Grenade it would also be a fail as the light would probably not cast a spot past 20 meters. a red dot with a laser is thee best bet it would be swiveled to aim. and if you look at this picture there even seems to be some reflection form glass at the back of the larger tube.

Your pics shows the carbine version, the QBZ95B-1, and some of the pics available online shows there are flashlight and laser pointer attachments for it, alas those are more bulky than those available to US military. Mounting points are on the sides of the front sight. Of course, in order not to obstruct the grenade launcher's iron sight, the mount on the left have to be the laser sight.

This Scope looks like the same one from Mace's "Sniper Grenade launcher"
Mwryum You seem to have had a little play time with it What is it? my guess is a range finder like the MEPRO MESLAS
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But not as advanced as the Tracking point system
You've no idea how busy that day for that booth...while only a few knew this is the "new stuff", most common folks couldn't resist the lure of a big gun after all. So I actually don't have that much of time to really play with it, taking good pictures quickly was tough by itself. But by what little interaction I managed to squeeze out of it, it's a scope comes with its own laser rangefinder and ballistic calculator, which will generate a red reticle (a "T" with a circle in the middle) over the intended target. The display has elevation markings.

A feature I strongly Do not approve of Right here! just begging for debris to screw up the magazine
The bottom of the magazine has 3 hole that should allow debris to drain away, but you are right because I do share the same doubt.

Just for fun I love the Splitter pattern!
Replica WW2 German M42 camo pattern, still looks viable today, alas today's fad is digital patterns...
 
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