PLA Small arms

PiSigma said:

What happens if white brick, grey brick or painted brick is used? Or concrete/glass building.... Will stick out more than a sore thumb.

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This is one of those stupid innovations that needs to be put back into the box. Unless they want to be mistaken for upright tigers holding guns in a jungle...

Added an Olight Odin to my Type 97 Nazi killer. Still keepin' 100% in the PRC.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

PAP urban brick? I could see some use for it but it would have some potential failure factor to. Out side of brick structures in fall in highly wooded along transitional climates areas it might also work. However as a general urban they tend to defuse colors to almost arid scapes.

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I don't think this is a specific brick pattern. It looks like their arid tigerstripe they've had for a little while now. Just looks like somebody thought it blended well with the brick and turned it into a pr picture

Maxef208 said:

I don't think this is a specific brick pattern. It looks like their arid tigerstripe they've had for a little while now. Just looks like somebody thought it blended well with the brick and turned it into a pr picture

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You can definitely tell it was a bad colour filter. The highlights of the flag are totally oversaturated and blowing out, also the skin tone is way too red.

I believe this should be the first video showing the new SAW machinegun firing!



However, I am not sure if the optic we see here is the same one that is used on the new HMG. They seem very similar but are not identical.

A quick question on Chinese MG classification. Does PLA have the distinction between LMG (7.62mm NATO) and SAW (5.56mm NATO) like the US army? Or they just unify LMG/SAW under the 5.8mm caliber and dispense with the old Russian 7.62mm in MG usage?

The Chinese are calling their 5.8mm QJY-88 a GPMG.

QJS-161 with a new belt fed magazine. Note the disintegrating links, which are very rarely adopted by the PLA.

MwRYum said:

The QJZ89 HMG is due for a replacement.

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To be replaced with what though. It is highly doubtful that the PLA will go back to any HMG design that is heavier than the 89, and as you said there is only so much weight saving you can do before it negatively effects other areas of the gun's performance.

I think this whole research is more to prove a point than to turn out anything useable, which is weight is not something that can be shave off as one likes it without any compromises.

In fact this last decade alone has been a major experimenting period for the PLA in terms of ammo sizes. They try to eliminate the intermediate 7.62 round and push the 12.7mm into it's place, but it seems that they just can't overcome the performance gap.

The QJH001 machine gun (door) mount.