PLA Small arms

by78

General
A clearer uncensored image of the new compact pistol, designation QSZ193. The magazine is single row and holds seven bullets. I hope they could change the magazine to a double-row in the future. It wouldn't be hard to do.

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plawolf

Lieutenant General
A clearer uncensored image of the new compact pistol, designation QSZ193. The magazine is single row and holds seven bullets. I hope they could change the magazine to a double-row in the future. It wouldn't be hard to do.

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Depends on the design of the mag well and grip, but I have a feeling it might not be that simple.

The choice for single stack may well be to keep the magazine slim so they can make the grip smaller.

People of Asia are still generally smaller in size than Caucasians, which may make big pistol grips with double stack magazines uncomfortable to hold for an not inconsequential proportion of troops, which may be the reason for this design choice.
 

Saibotz

New Member
Registered Member
Depends on the design of the mag well and grip, but I have a feeling it might not be that simple.

The choice for single stack may well be to keep the magazine slim so they can make the grip smaller.

People of Asia are still generally smaller in size than Caucasians, which may make big pistol grips with double stack magazines uncomfortable to hold for an not inconsequential proportion of troops, which may be the reason for this design choice.
I am very much a layman on this issue, but it would still seem like quite a trade-off to improve the ergonomics of the pistol while sacrificing magazine capacity. With the rapid economic growth in the past decades younger people have grown taller as well. Perhaps 7 rounds are deemed sufficient as soldiers don't use pistols that often, but it would nonetheless be nice to see a double stack version of the gun.
 

yikustudi

Just Hatched
Registered Member
has anyone able to identify the name of what's supposed to be a MPX and CZ EVO clone yet? I'm talking about these old images posted in previous pages.
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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Depends on the design of the mag well and grip, but I have a feeling it might not be that simple.

The choice for single stack may well be to keep the magazine slim so they can make the grip smaller.

People of Asia are still generally smaller in size than Caucasians, which may make big pistol grips with double stack magazines uncomfortable to hold for an not inconsequential proportion of troops, which may be the reason for this design choice.
They already issue double stacks in the full size package, so this sounds like a red herring.
The main hand size issue is with larger caliber types and bulkier grips like say the Brick like Glock. But many smaller ones like the Sig P365, S&W shield+, Walther PDP show you can do even a subcompact military caliber double stack.
A number of compact single stacks have been reengineered into double stack in the last few years. So it’s not without precedent it would require retooling the frame and a new magazine but the basic design is sound. So it just seems to be that deep conservative streak.
 

yikustudi

Just Hatched
Registered Member
Depends on the design of the mag well and grip, but I have a feeling it might not be that simple.

The choice for single stack may well be to keep the magazine slim so they can make the grip smaller.

People of Asia are still generally smaller in size than Caucasians, which may make big pistol grips with double stack magazines uncomfortable to hold for an not inconsequential proportion of troops, which may be the reason for this design choice.
Well true it would not be that simple, but if a double stack version previously exists, then it could be done. They could make the mag well grip smaller and incorporate additional gripping on the magazine like what you see on most compact pistols.
 

Saibotz

New Member
Registered Member
Another new pistol of unknown designation (the two on the left), along with the just unveiled QSZ193 and its magazine. The submachine gun is CS/LS7.

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The new pistol is hammer-fired, whereas the other is striker-fired. Any thoughts by more knowledgeable members as to why they choose to stick with a hammer-fired design for the new pistol?
 
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The new pistol is hammer-fired, whereas the other is striker-fired. Any thoughts by more knowledgeable members as to why they choose to stick with a hammer-fired design for the new pistol?
Usually to allow for both double action and single action fire. As they have different effects on accuracy and rate of fire.
 
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