PLA next/6th generation fighter thread

[latenlazy]

Unrelated to the thread but i don't see anything strange
The largest missiles are clearly PL-17’s with folding fins
the medium missiles are PL-15’s with folding fins
and the smallest missiles are PL-10’s with folding fins.
Ofc the 17 and 10 are fictional, a fun what if drawing if you will.

And with David’s comment, I don’t believe that is exactly a J-20 bay as there are no canards, and the shape of the weapons bays are different, there are actually many differences. Perhaps his fictional vision of a what if for a J-20. I honestly don’t believe his 3 engine design is credible at all if he is a guy who likes drawing what if content and posts it around.

He is a guy who likes drawing what if content, but people like believing his stuff is revealing secrets. It’s a silly cycle. Lots of people right now want to believe the people who report a “leak” first are the people who have the scoop. Accuracy suffers as a result.

 

[Blitzo]

It's pretty weak evidence for the 3 engine case, but I wonder if this is what Yankee said when he called it "not good looking"

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Between when we saw that then, and to now, that comment of his was not very useful because "not good looking" can mean anything when beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

IMO rumours are best if they are from someone with a good track record that can be made to make sense without having to rely on an external quantifier.

For example, when he said in the podcast from a few weeks back stating outright that J-XD should be expected in "tens of days" that is something on the more useful side of things. It is both constrained and concrete as to what is meant.



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I have just visited 草根设计师-CAD's weibo. Below is one of his latest drawing on weapon bay of J20. I would say it is more like a wish-list rather than a real thing. It is possible but unlikely as we do not hear any rumour on such missile load configuration, nor new development of a new type of AAM smaller than PL-10.

I think we should disregard his 3 engine drawing for now.

These missiles look strange.
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No canards. Not a J-20.

And with David’s comment, I don’t believe that is exactly a J-20 bay as there are no canards, and the shape of the weapons bays are different, there are actually many differences. Perhaps his fictional vision of a what if for a J-20. I honestly don’t believe his 3 engine design is credible at all if he is a guy who likes drawing what if content and posts it around.

I'm pretty sure lcloo just meant to write "next gen/6th gen fighter" rather than "J-20".

 

[2=GT]

If it does end up being a three engined configuration I’m curious what the reddit soyboys will claim that J-XD stole its design from.

Quite obviously, the CCP hacked and stole the plans from the Galactic Empire

 

[Maikeru]

No, that is what Elon Musk is now suggesting USAF buys instead of F35.

Quite obviously, the CCP hacked and stole the plans from the Galactic Empire

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[iewgnem]

He is a guy who likes drawing what if content, but people like believing his stuff is revealing secrets. It’s a silly cycle. Lots of people right now want to believe the people who report a “leak” first are the people who have the scoop. Accuracy suffers as a result.

He drew the twin-fuselage Divine Eagle UAV a long time before photos came out, and that's just the one that stood out the most because how unusual it was at the time.

Doesn't mean he can't draw what-if to obfuscate, but he clearly have clearance to both see and release drawings of confidential platforms that turned out to be real.

 

[latenlazy]

He drew the twin-fuselage Divine Eagle UAV a long time before photos came out, and that's just the one that stood out the most because how unusual it was at the time.

Doesn't mean he can't draw what-if to obfuscate, but he clearly have clearance to both see and release drawings of confidential platforms that turned out to be real.

No he didn’t. We had leaks of some images before he did the lineart for it.

 

[iewgnem]

No he didn’t. We had leaks of some images before he did the lineart for it.

No, there was a twin-fuselage drone paper people dug up afterwards, but the drawing was far closer to the real thing than the paper and the paper didn't get much attention until after.
I've been on CJDBY daily for 6 years up to that point, there was no leaks prior to him.

 

[latenlazy]

No, there was a twin-fuselage drone paper people dug up afterwards, but the drawing was far closer to the real thing than the paper and the paper didn't get much attention until after.
I've been on CJDBY daily for 6 years up to that point, there was no leaks prior to him.

No we had renders from some expo displays before he did the lineart.

Edit: See here.

Chinese UAV/UCAV development

New Chengdu designed, artillery-launched UAV. It's used to designate targets for other guided munitions. I'm not entirely sure if it can also carry an explosive payload and attack targets directly (as what the third photo appears to illustrate). Its not going to have direct attack...

www.sinodefenceforum.com

 

[Interstellar]

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are quoting the post with above drawing without explicitly saying anything. They may be implying the 6th gen is using this triple engine design.

I don't understand how it is related to this thread (PLA next/6th generation fighter).

 

[iewgnem]

No we had renders from some expo displays before he did the lineart.

Edit: See here.

Chinese UAV/UCAV development

New Chengdu designed, artillery-launched UAV. It's used to designate targets for other guided munitions. I'm not entirely sure if it can also carry an explosive payload and attack targets directly (as what the third photo appears to illustrate). Its not going to have direct attack...

www.sinodefenceforum.com

That's the point, that post was from Feb 2015, actual photos came out around summer 2015.
People only noticed the dual-fuselage paper after he posted the drawing along with WZ-7. There are countless papers of different drone configurations and 6th gen concepts, accurately predicting two large and unique drone platforms months before photo isn't something you can pull off just drawing random concepts in papers.