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So far, the only 'evidence' proffered is some tweets from Shugart that contained satellite images of alleged crane barges congregating at a pier. However, crane barges are very similar to dredging barges in appearance and would be practically indistinguishable in grainy satellite images (see photos below). Both barge types feature large cranes, the difference being that a dredging barge's crane is connected to a bucket used to remove sediments from the riverbed.

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Does it really make sense that 4 dredging barges would congregate and remove sediment together from a single location? I'm guessing it doesn't. It's probably reasonable to assume those are indeed crane barges, not dredging barges.

Maybe they're there to haul a sunken submarine out of the water. Or maybe they're just there to fix the pier that had been partially dislodged. Even if there was a mishap at the construction site, there's no evidence that the submarine actually sunk. An accident could've simply damaged the pier, and so the sub was hauled away so the pier can be repaired.

There's many different ways to interpret the photos. Tom Shugart, the Heritage Foundation, and WSJ are all pushing the "sunken nuclear submarine" theory as if it was an established fact. But so far they have presented no new evidence that makes their theory any more plausible than half a dozen other theories.
 

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Does it really make sense that 4 dredging barges would congregate and remove sediment together from a single location? I'm guessing it doesn't. It's probably reasonable to assume those are indeed crane barges, not dredging barges.

Maybe they're there to haul a sunken submarine out of the water. Or maybe they're just there to fix the pier that had been partially dislodged. Even if there was a mishap at the construction site, there's no evidence that the submarine actually sunk. An accident could've simply damaged the pier, and so the sub was hauled away so the pier can be repaired.

There's many different ways to interpret the photos. Tom Shugart, the Heritage Foundation, and WSJ are all pushing the "sunken nuclear submarine" theory as if it was an established fact. But so far they have presented no new evidence that makes their theory any more plausible than half a dozen other theories.

Perhaps not all four are dredging barges. If they were repairing/reinforcing/building an structure, a dredger or two would likely be needed along with crane barges.
 

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Does it really make sense that 4 dredging barges would congregate and remove sediment together from a single location? I'm guessing it doesn't. It's probably reasonable to assume those are indeed crane barges, not dredging barges.

Maybe they're there to haul a sunken submarine out of the water. Or maybe they're just there to fix the pier that had been partially dislodged. Even if there was a mishap at the construction site, there's no evidence that the submarine actually sunk. An accident could've simply damaged the pier, and so the sub was hauled away so the pier can be repaired.

There's many different ways to interpret the photos. Tom Shugart, the Heritage Foundation, and WSJ are all pushing the "sunken nuclear submarine" theory as if it was an established fact. But so far they have presented no new evidence that makes their theory any more plausible than half a dozen other theories.
No matter how I look at it.

At least that picture, the black parts are clearly only shadows of cranes or the dredge crane / whatever it is.
 
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