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Blackstone
Brigadier
"Heavily armed" is overstating the case, I don't see anything resembling 76mm cannons or even 30mm Gatling guns.
It all depends on the relative comparison of the vessels involved I suppose.
If a vessel with a couple of twin 20mm cannons tells you to give it up, and you are armed with a couple of assault rifles...then the 20mm cannons are "heavily armed" from your perspective.
Whatever the case was, the Indonesian Coast Guard felt compelled to give up the Chinese fishing vessel.
GreenestGDP
Junior Member
As usual and routine ... ...
The 1st PRC coast guard picture posted by US NavalToday.com is NOT accurate and intentionally misleading ( Divide and Conquer tactics to create a unnecessary wedge between Indonesia and PRC ).
The incident happen on from ( 19 MAR 2016 @ around 23:00 ) to ( 20 MAR 2016 @ around 01:45 )
There was NO sunlight.
After prolong pursuit by Indonesian Navy outside Indonesian EEZ, .... ...
It is very likely the location of the incident is outside Indonesian EEZ.
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In order to thwart the western insidious and malicious Divide and Conquer tactics ... ...
1) If the concerned PRC officials and diplomats are smart and wise and not being idiotic and corrupt, then they shall immediately issue a Absolutely Clear statement and regulation prohibiting PRC companies and fishermen from fishing
anywhere near the boundary of the EEZ of ( Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, Vietnam, Thailand, Burma, and South Korea ) by creating a 10 km outside buffer zone immediately after the EEZ boundary.
2) Any PRC companies and fishermen violating and fishing inside this 10 km buffer zone will get their ship confiscated.
The confiscated ship will be sold at auction and PRC shall use the proceed as a donation to enrich all PRC Anti Corruption officials.
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Is this post too political ?
Where is the part that is too political ?
The 1st PRC coast guard picture posted by US NavalToday.com is NOT accurate and intentionally misleading ( Divide and Conquer tactics to create a unnecessary wedge between Indonesia and PRC ).
The incident happen on from ( 19 MAR 2016 @ around 23:00 ) to ( 20 MAR 2016 @ around 01:45 )
There was NO sunlight.
After prolong pursuit by Indonesian Navy outside Indonesian EEZ, .... ...
It is very likely the location of the incident is outside Indonesian EEZ.
===
In order to thwart the western insidious and malicious Divide and Conquer tactics ... ...
1) If the concerned PRC officials and diplomats are smart and wise and not being idiotic and corrupt, then they shall immediately issue a Absolutely Clear statement and regulation prohibiting PRC companies and fishermen from fishing
anywhere near the boundary of the EEZ of ( Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, Vietnam, Thailand, Burma, and South Korea ) by creating a 10 km outside buffer zone immediately after the EEZ boundary.
2) Any PRC companies and fishermen violating and fishing inside this 10 km buffer zone will get their ship confiscated.
The confiscated ship will be sold at auction and PRC shall use the proceed as a donation to enrich all PRC Anti Corruption officials.
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NOTE:
Is this post too political ?
Where is the part that is too political ?
Brumby
Major
What 1st PRC coast guard picture posted by US NavalToday? If I click the link to the US NavalToday regarding the story, the only related picture is what looks to be a fishing vessel.
It even has the caption for illustration only. What is so intentionally misleading as you alluded?
The second link is to a fortune article which appears to be reporting the same incident. In that it has the following picture.
There is no caption describing the picture. I can't make out which nation the vessel belongs to. If you can, tell me how.
According to the reports, there is now a dispute whether the incident happened outside or inside Indonesia's territorial jurisdiction. Your comments suggest otherwise. Do you have a reference source to back up your assertion or are you being political?
This statement itself is highly political. Do you actually have any evidence that you wish to point out from the contents of the articles as both insidious and malicious according to a standard that you are demonstrating with your comments.
Do you have any evidence to be making such derogatory remarks from the outset?
Are you being comical or are you actually serious?
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Also wonder where exactly this happened. The Natuna Sea is at an intersection area which in its northeastmost overlaps the southwestmost part of China's "nine-dashed line" claims.
So why did Chinese coast guard ship freed the Chinese fishing vessel from the Indonesian?
Because Indonesia is known to destroy foreign fishing vessels that it seizes, over a hundred of them over the last two years in fact. China has expressed concerns about the practice.
In South China Sea, this kinds of incidents happen quite regularly. You have had Philippine shot Taiwanese fisherman, China arrest Vietnamese fishermen, and Indonesia took control of foreign vessels, not just Chinese ones. Just because the media is now focusing on "aggressive Chinese behaviors" doesn't mean it's something new or solely Chinese. It's a crowded region and is bound to have such incidents.
Because Indonesia is known to destroy foreign fishing vessels that it seizes, over a hundred of them over the last two years in fact. China has expressed concerns about the practice.
In South China Sea, this kinds of incidents happen quite regularly. You have had Philippine shot Taiwanese fisherman, China arrest Vietnamese fishermen, and Indonesia took control of foreign vessels, not just Chinese ones. Just because the media is now focusing on "aggressive Chinese behaviors" doesn't mean it's something new or solely Chinese. It's a crowded region and is bound to have such incidents.
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In other news today, Taiwanese boats shot at in Strait of Malacca by official Indonesian vessels.
The Indonesian authority has been rather aggressive in dealing with foreign vessels. I guess China is not the only country that has been "assertive" in such activities, nor China is the only target of Indonesia's "assertiveness." Just another day in SCS.
The Indonesian authority has been rather aggressive in dealing with foreign vessels. I guess China is not the only country that has been "assertive" in such activities, nor China is the only target of Indonesia's "assertiveness." Just another day in SCS.
GreenestGDP
Junior Member
If we want to elevate PRC societal development and national progress to the next level ... ...
We must dare to be frank and admit that ...
... ...many, many PRC citizens are often very, very short sighted to the point of frequently SACRIFICING PRC national welfare for their own personal profits.
Please do not be sloppy and check the truth ... ...
Let's be FRANK and JUST ... ...
There are way too many commercial fishing companies and fishermen from many nations ( including Australia, Vietnam, PRC, Pinoy, Malaysia, Nigeria, ... ... and many others ) who have continuously been stealing from inside Indonesian EEZ ( the world richest fishing EEZ by far ) with impunity, since at least the last 50 years.
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In the past, they have been caught, reprimanded, and released by the Indonesian Navy, yet they ignore the repeated warnings and keep coming back by stealing more inside Indonesian EEZ.
Now, the Indonesian ministry of Fisheries changes their tactics by sinking the criminal ships. ... ... Thus, it is very unwise and self sabotaged for any Chinese officials and educated and informed Chinese to protest the new Indonesian tactics without studying the historical background of Indonesian stolen natural resources.
Especially at present time, where China is being militarily encircled and surrounded by US, Japan, Australia, and India.
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For long term national survival, PRC must control, and with maximum effort preventing their own citizens from stealing national resources from FRIENDLY neighboring nations, such as all ASEAN nation ( except Philippines ), Russia, North and South Korea, all other Central Asian nations.
It is morally low, unwise and stupid, when some PRC government officials and educated and informed Chinese are being sloppy, insulting and offensive towards FRIENDLY neighboring nations.
For example: Su-35 sale ... or Stealing fishes from Indonesian EEZ
We must dare to be frank and admit that ...
... ...many, many PRC citizens are often very, very short sighted to the point of frequently SACRIFICING PRC national welfare for their own personal profits.
Please do not be sloppy and check the truth ... ...
Let's be FRANK and JUST ... ...
There are way too many commercial fishing companies and fishermen from many nations ( including Australia, Vietnam, PRC, Pinoy, Malaysia, Nigeria, ... ... and many others ) who have continuously been stealing from inside Indonesian EEZ ( the world richest fishing EEZ by far ) with impunity, since at least the last 50 years.
===
In the past, they have been caught, reprimanded, and released by the Indonesian Navy, yet they ignore the repeated warnings and keep coming back by stealing more inside Indonesian EEZ.
Now, the Indonesian ministry of Fisheries changes their tactics by sinking the criminal ships. ... ... Thus, it is very unwise and self sabotaged for any Chinese officials and educated and informed Chinese to protest the new Indonesian tactics without studying the historical background of Indonesian stolen natural resources.
Especially at present time, where China is being militarily encircled and surrounded by US, Japan, Australia, and India.
===
For long term national survival, PRC must control, and with maximum effort preventing their own citizens from stealing national resources from FRIENDLY neighboring nations, such as all ASEAN nation ( except Philippines ), Russia, North and South Korea, all other Central Asian nations.
It is morally low, unwise and stupid, when some PRC government officials and educated and informed Chinese are being sloppy, insulting and offensive towards FRIENDLY neighboring nations.
For example: Su-35 sale ... or Stealing fishes from Indonesian EEZ
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