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TK3600

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Slat armor is becoming more and more widespread. Screen caps are from a recent exercise in the north.

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Cage is too small compared to Russian and Ukrainian. It needs to be as large as practically possible to cover multiple angle.
 

tankphobia

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Seems that the turret design is not conducive to cope cage coverage. Pretty exposed from the front.
I feel like the final evolution of a cope cage armoured fighting vehicle will just be a da Vinci fighting vehicles with ERA instead of wood.

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FPVs are accurate enough to go through slots in slate armor, too good of a coverage and you're basically forcing the crew to burn to death in case of a penetrating hit from another tank due to horrible ergonomics, hard problem to solve.
 

Biscuits

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Cage is too small compared to Russian and Ukrainian. It needs to be as large as practically possible to cover multiple angle.
But that would obstruct the APS.

Edit: Israel also chose to do the same. While they're not impressive in most respects, they still have plenty of experience at having vehicles blown up. If making a full turtle tank is better, I'd think they would have embraced it at this point.

Also Russian tank with hard kill APS (T-14) is not seen with any cope cage at all. I'd guess that if it had, it would be a Chinese style one rather than turtle tank.
 
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TK3600

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But that would obstruct the APS.

Edit: Israel also chose to do the same. While they're not impressive in most respects, they still have plenty of experience at having vehicles blown up. If making a full turtle tank is better, I'd think they would have embraced it at this point.

Also Russian tank with hard kill APS (T-14) is not seen with any cope cage at all. I'd guess that if it had, it would be a Chinese style one rather than turtle tank.
No APS installed in those examples, nor do I think think APS adaptation at mass scale is a good option.
 
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