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Bellum_Romanum

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Yes, but this would help the PLA get more combat experience. If anything, the CIA is making a big mistake by sending terrorists to Xinjiang.
Are you serious? Combat experience fighting the Taliban and other Afghan freedom fighters do not result to a more combat effectiveness relevant to high intensity warfare against a near peer opponent.

No one frankly give a flying toss when Japan's Defense force, ROK, ROCA have never fought or seen combat in a very long time but you don't read too many propaganda about their supposed combat ineffectiveness do we?

ETIM and other would be terrorist elements and separatists dreaming of carving Xinjiang away from China have no chance in hell regardless of how many times they pray to their true gods (U.S. & Ishmael). Stop this nonsense.
 

polati

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Are you serious? Combat experience fighting the Taliban and other Afghan freedom fighters do not result to a more combat effectiveness relevant to high intensity warfare against a near peer opponent.

No one frankly give a flying toss when Japan's Defense force, ROK, ROCA have never fought or seen combat in a very long time but you don't read too many propaganda about their supposed combat ineffectiveness do we?

ETIM and other would be terrorist elements and separatists dreaming of carving Xinjiang away from China have no chance in hell regardless of how many times they pray to their true gods (U.S. & Ishmael). Stop this nonsense.
Yes, it would be barely useless in terms of combat experience of war strategy and combined arms warfare. However in terms of infantry combat effectiveness and weapons testing, it's quite useful, so still much better than absolutely nothing.
 

Saru

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Are you serious? Combat experience fighting the Taliban and other Afghan freedom fighters do not result to a more combat effectiveness relevant to high intensity warfare against a near peer opponent.

No one frankly give a flying toss when Japan's Defense force, ROK, ROCA have never fought or seen combat in a very long time but you don't read too many propaganda about their supposed combat ineffectiveness do we?

ETIM and other would be terrorist elements and separatists dreaming of carving Xinjiang away from China have no chance in hell regardless of how many times they pray to their true gods (U.S. & Ishmael). Stop this nonsense.

We all know there's lots of Bias on that end. ROK and ROCA barely have any form of combat experience, but people do like to bad-mouth China, as you said.
 

Index

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Are you serious? Combat experience fighting the Taliban and other Afghan freedom fighters do not result to a more combat effectiveness relevant to high intensity warfare against a near peer opponent.

No one frankly give a flying toss when Japan's Defense force, ROK, ROCA have never fought or seen combat in a very long time but you don't read too many propaganda about their supposed combat ineffectiveness do we?
ROCA can claim to have combat effectiveness because they face the PLA in the ongoing civil war, but they're essentially only surviving off the ceasefire.
We all know there's lots of Bias on that end. ROK and ROCA barely have any form of combat experience, but people do like to bad-mouth China, as you said.
Not really, lunatics exist on both sides but in reality the (major) country that has combat experience (Russia so far) still respect no real combat experience since 70s US and China.

Because even they know fighting mostly comes down to platform and tech, even if US military and PLA are untested in conflict, their sheer numbers, the economy/industry backing them and their tech superiority cannot be overcome just by Russian experienced soldiers.

There's ofc small countries that have experienced warfare on their own scales, like Syria, Myanmar, various jihadis and so on. But they're not serious contenders.
 

votran

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i still don't understand what the point of this dumbass 100/30 mm weapon system on IFV

even russian themselves used it like a retard in ukraine and end up with huge number of BMP-3 loss + crew death by drone / atgm / rpg attack

100mm "grenade launcher" supposed to be use at long range to lob 100mm HE into enemy trench avoid close combat because it a dead wish for thin armor IFV that carry like 50+ 100mm HE inside the hull

and yes russian mostly used BMP-3 as in close combat situation because the 30mm gun can't be use effectively at range

so you end up with a BIG ass juicy target for enemy drone/ATGM , thin armor , carry inside a fuck load of dangerous 100mm and 30mm high explosive shell .

any hit will have a big chance of turning your vehicles in to a space program launch , killing entire your valueable crews sit inside or even ontop + anyone nearby the vehicles

what a fucking stupid design
 
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