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amchan

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i still don't understand what the point of this dumbass 100/30 mm weapon system on IFV

even russian themselves used it like a retard in ukraine and end up with huge number of BMP-3 loss + crew death by drone / atgm / rpg attack

100mm "grenade launcher" supposed to be use at long range to lob 100mm HE into enemy trench avoid close combat because it a dead wish for thin armor IFV that carry like 50+ 100mm HE inside the hull

and yes russian mostly used BMP-3 as in close combat situation because the 30mm gun can't be use effectively at range

so you end up with a BIG ass juicy target for enemy drone/ATGM , thin armor , carry inside a fuck load of dangerous 100mm and 30mm high explosive shell .

any hit will have a big chance of turning your vehicles in to a space program launch , killing entire your valueable crews sit inside or even ontop + anyone nearby the vehicles

what a fucking stupid design
The weapons system was designed before the drone threat, and is remarkably lightweight and compact for the amount of firepower it provides. The ammunition is stored on the turret floor, and should be relatively safe, and it has a mechanism that reduces the risk of fire. What exactly are you comparing it to with the same firepower and mobility, yet has superior survivability? The Chinese system also has an improved internal layout as well as a laser warning system and additional armor. If you are referencing the BMP-3, it lacks passive ATGM sensors and has not been used as designed.
 

votran

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The weapons system was designed before the drone threat, and is remarkably lightweight and compact for the amount of firepower it provides. The ammunition is stored on the turret floor, and should be relatively safe, and it has a mechanism that reduces the risk of fire. What exactly are you comparing it to with the same firepower and mobility, yet has superior survivability? The Chinese system also has an improved internal layout as well as a laser warning system and additional armor. If you are referencing the BMP-3, it lacks passive ATGM sensors and has not been used as designed.
ZBD-04A max load carry x50 100mm HE shell , atleast 8x ATGM , x500 30mm shell
i don't think any kind of store trick can boost it crews survivability to equal level as ....bradley for example
also 100mm HE shell stored vertically , not really "relatively safe" like you think
specially again top attack ATMG , top/side attack drone
to make matter worst taiwan is an island , so the idea of bring less than max ammo load to boost survivability is not acceptable

anyway russian military seem didn't even know what was the design goal of BMP-3 at all : where to use , how to use , what to avoid ...etc

and they are the one invented this weapon system
 
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i still don't understand what the point of this dumbass 100/30 mm weapon system on IFV

even russian themselves used it like a retard in ukraine and end up with huge number of BMP-3 loss + crew death by drone / atgm / rpg attack

100mm "grenade launcher" supposed to be use at long range to lob 100mm HE into enemy trench avoid close combat because it a dead wish for thin armor IFV that carry like 50+ 100mm HE inside the hull

and yes russian mostly used BMP-3 as in close combat situation because the 30mm gun can't be use effectively at range

so you end up with a BIG ass juicy target for enemy drone/ATGM , thin armor , carry inside a fuck load of dangerous 100mm and 30mm high explosive shell .

any hit will have a big chance of turning your vehicles in to a space program launch , killing entire your valueable crews sit inside or even ontop + anyone nearby the vehicles

what a fucking stupid design
Purpose built IFVs and APCs generally don't endure hits. In PLA's case, the idea is a heavier firepower vehicle can destroy enemies from range when supported by drones and airpower.

To storm enemy in close range you'd probably look at using dismounted and dispersed infantry or if you must use a vehicle, one of the PLA tank conversion IFVs.
 

broadsword

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Purpose built IFVs and APCs generally don't endure hits. In PLA's case, the idea is a heavier firepower vehicle can destroy enemies from range when supported by drones and airpower.

To storm enemy in close range you'd probably look at using dismounted and dispersed infantry or if you must use a vehicle, one of the PLA tank conversion IFVs.

Would UGVs and robodogs suffer the same fate when used to storm at close range?
 

QIUSIYU

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73th Group Army SOF​

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Saru

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Peace Garuda-2024 joint exercise
I Really Wish they wore their plate carriers more properly. The way some of them put them on themselves seems loose and sluggish. If they can prioritize solidity and discipline, they should certainly be able to do the same with plate carriers.
 
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