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Papppi

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Fandango831 said:
Well from what I've seen the 81st GA personnel at Cooperation are just using the current post-2021 equipment (though in partial configuration) which is the standard for the PLA anymore when participating in an international exercise whether held at home or abroad with Warrior-8 being the oddity to that norm.
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Looks like there's plenty of 18 tubes to me ngl
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As for visual data most imagery I have catalogued whether personally or for work the past 6 years still points to most units within the PLAGF not having full access to the digital solider system as standard issuance and in many cases the system only being issued out in partial or non-functional condition (no power pack or commo).
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6 years is a huge stretch, most PLA infantry where issued gear equivalent to 90s / Early GWOT USMC 6 years ago (to put it generously). The only night vision devices available to your average PLA infantryman (if they're lucky) until 2021 / 2022 were BBG-011A (upgraded copies of 90s LUCIE nvg, poor performance made worse by corruption scandals) and the BBG-191-3 (very questionable early digital tube). Most transformations were centered in the last 2 years with the introduction of the Type-21. The entire "digital soldier system" you keep talking about (comms + combat terminal + digital tube etc.) was pretty much abandoned and scaled back along with the Type-19 system early on, most units have since switched to adopting individual sets / types of equipment with the Type-21, in this case, we'r talking exclusively about digital tubes.

PLA digital tubes are also very much functional (and have been seen functioning) without being connected to a external battery pack, which has been a case since its predecessor the BBG-191-3.

Other trends including the introduction this year of what is likely an in-testing common digital combat sight points towards the PLA looking at a more streamlined/economical approach to enhancing their forces information sharing/night-fighting capabilities over what is now being marketed as an export package with CS/LN2. I don't say this as saying I think the program is defunct, if anything I think it's very much succeeded in establishing a baseline for the PLA that didn't exist before, but I also think as it was originally envisioned is not in line with where the PLAGF is trending towards for what will likely be another system revision in the near-future. Merely my thoughts on the matter with the data I see.
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I think you got the order wrong, the CS/LN2 is a export variant based off the existing Type-21 / 19 system, there's nothing more streamlined or economical about it as its the exact same thing with slight modifications to connectors and side rails for export. And in this specific case, the dual mounted variant CS/LN2 is arguably less economical given that it's well ... two tubes rather than one.
 
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Papppi said:
Don't think so. The participating members are from various units of the Western theatre command, whom were among the first to get issued / test the 2018 digital nods (along with the type 19 system in general), they likely just kept on using those even after they were officially replaced by the 19/20 edition of digital nods, which isn't that surprising given the PLA's cost-saving traditions.

A similar case can be seen with units of the 81st GA currently training with the Singaporeans in "Corporation-2024", whom were also the initial testers of the 2018 nods and can be seen using them alongside the newer 19/20 editions of the system in the exercise.

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Image of the 81st from back in 2020

My Chinese social media algorithms have recently been recommending me a lot of private deployment pics of members across the PLA between 2021-2023 (believe some of them have been posted here) and from what I can see, digital nods (along with the 19/21 infantry combat system), while not quite having reached complete standard issue, are by no means "limited", seen issued / used in large quantities (not just in PLA photoshoots), especially for the more elite and frontline units.
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How did you determine that 81 GA troops were training with Singapore?
 
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Recent private deployment pics taken by a PLA member near the Indian border (taken from xhs)
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Again, from the many similar deployment pics of PLA members online, it is pretty clear that the basic components promised by the Type-21 system (excluding individual combat terminals and advanced comms), are issued at scale to the average PLA infantry, not just used as props for cringy photoshoots.
 
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by78 said:
An excerpt from a research paper states that an aviation turbine has been adapted for ground vehicle use. The engineering prototype outputs one megawatt, or 1300 hp. The performance (e.g. fuel consumption, reliability, etc.) has been deemed satisfactory.

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More on this gas turbine for armored vehicles. It appears to have been derived from the AES100 turboshaft, and its performance was deemed to be comparabe to existing internal combustion counterparts. The output of the turbine is listed at 900kW in table 9.

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An earlier paper published in 2022 also mentioned a 2000kW gas turbine for armored vehicles, which is probably derived from the WZ10 turboshaft. Moreover, the paper also mentions a 250kW hybrid system for vehicles.
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