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Hitomi

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supersnoop said:
2. I agree it’s a tight timeframe, but I can also guarantee that loading isn’t the limiting factor. You seem to be very hung up on that.
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True, human loading in burst firing mission would not fall far behind autoloaders even for 155mms seeing that 120mms load faster than autoloaders on a fresh crew. Autoloaders only matter more in the longer run and that isn't even considering the maintenance complexity and time required for the autoloader in field conditions.

Strategic mobility also matters as the PCL-181s are designed to be air mobile. The addition of an autoloader will require an even stronger and likely heavier chassis for the PCL-181 or reduce its current ammo capacity.

In the end the PCL-181 was designed to replaced towed howitzers and not the SPG for armoured formations which the PLA has the PLZ-05 for, which has all the bells and whistles you are asking for.
 
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Papppi said:
"Gun YouTuber" and "Company owner" Lucas Botkin somehow got his hands on a set of Type-21 ICS vest (probably remake) and made a short review of it.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1732535141048717723
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Aniah said:
I'm surprised Lucas has anything positive to say about something not made in America especially when it's Chinese.
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LawLeadsToPeace said:
He'll ruin his reputation of being professional if he doesn't. Plus, given how a China-US war may be on the horizon, people like him want to provide as much accurate info as possible to their audience, particularly their military consumers, about their enemy even if it burns them a bit. I have been seeing this type of behavior increase for the past year at the very least. On the flip side, we at least know about the quality of the vest.
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In the full video he reviews a bunch of other cheap gear he got off aliexpress and it wasn't exactly positive. If he wanted to be "professional" and provide accurate info he wouldn't buy off aliexpress for starters and should probably find stuff that isn't obvious cheap LARP/cosplay level gear.
 
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iBBz said:
This forum could use a section that timelines facts about PLA components to shorten discussions, like spec sheets with photos and such. It would be fun to read through something like that instead of rolling through thousands of pages of discussions trying to learn about the PLA. Also thank you for posting the article, that was a good read.
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Its why I advocated for an SDF Wiki page to make searching, organizing and categorizing information easier.
 
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Papppi

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Tiger1125 said:
In the full video he reviews a bunch of other cheap gear he got off aliexpress and it wasn't exactly positive. If he wanted to be "professional" and provide accurate info he wouldn't buy off aliexpress for starters and should probably find stuff that isn't obvious cheap LARP/cosplay level gear.
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Bold for you to assume that a radical christian fundamentalist / facist like Lucas Botkin (who apparently grew up being homeschooled) would have enough braincells to buy anything Chinese apart from Aliexpress, or provide "accurate" info.

This creep is also the CEO of a small gears company called
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, and the main reason for his social media's existence was to promote / sell his crap. Reviewing actual quality Chinese gear would be shooting himself in the foot, as it would offer a cheaper alternative to his viewers rather than his junk
 
by78

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Just a nice image showing a variety of equipment: armored recovery vehicles, self-propelled howitzers, AA guns, etc.

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Taiban

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Fandango831 said:
Are you referring to the bridging vehicles? Not sure the name of the REBS 8x8 base vehicle (will try looking into it). Note: Mentions/Photos of this REBS date back to 2021.
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Even I felt bridging vehicles,

However, I thought such vehicles were not part of Border Defence Regiment
 
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Biscuits

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iBBz said:
I tried to but didn't run into this article at all, but you are right, next time I'll try harder to find more info. The videos are good propaganda, nothing wrong with showing off some of these capabilities, and it could be done without revealing any sensitive information. The article claims the 181 can setup and fire 6 projectiles then move on in three minutes. Why do you think that is? Its because they want to show us but through text. Its still propaganda. That claim is outlandish, not saying its a lie, but it sounds faster than even the fully automated systems and merits video proof, even if its from a camera mounted on the dashboard showing nothing but the truck stopping and the firing sound repeating 6 times then the truck moving. If this claim is true, then I rest my case.
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Who would lie about how fast it fires anyways? And what motive would they have?

They're not even selling the system. And if they were, the other operator would quickly be able to tell if it was a lie.

I guarantee you, near 0 people are wowed by a new semiautomatic artillery system supposedly firing as fast or faster than a wholly automatic one. It's not the stuff youd make propaganda about anyways.

Maybe the pcl181 simply can fire so quickly because the crew have training protocols in how to rapidly set it up? Autoloader doesn't automatically translate to faster in 120-203mm caliber.
 
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