PLA air operations in westpac region

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
Registered Member
Is there any evidence supporting the Chinese claim that the P-8 attempted to fly close to the J-16? In other words, why should we take the CCP/China's word over that of Canada or Australia?
Because it's their (Canada, Australia) dumb dumb hysterics who happens to be fully pledged members of the 5 eyes, NATO, AUKUS, QUAD all organizations that are fully entrenched to do one thing and one thing only and that is to stop China’s economic rise plain and simple. So for anyone with a supposed clever brain like you most definitely have to dismiss the probability, possibility, not to mention the current realities of the geopolitical tensions by these countries against China is either choosing to be stupid or sees China and Chinese people as not only stupid but retarded.

And judging by your prior holier than thou dramatic pronouncements and histrionics labeling China's action as further proof of it's malevolent intent of "regional hegemony" without much evidence, it's clear that your anti-China bias wasted no time to support such inanity. This will get personal, I have no idea why a non-Chinese person would choose a moniker or call him/herself "Sinosoldier" when you're neither of Sino-Tibetan ethnic background or a soldier in the Republic of China (R.O.C.)

I would have been laughed off if I was to call myself or have a nickname with Hindutvasoldier or something of Indian in origin.
 

tygyg1111

Captain
Registered Member
The 2001 hainan island incident has not deterred US. You can take any stronger measure or escalate as you want. Do you think a lost of a P-8A or RC-135 with everyone dead will make US stop sending spy plane near CN?
In the bigger picture as long as your comprehensive power is greater the provocations will die down. 2001 was a lot different to now, which will be different to 2030. However, the trend between the 2 countries will be the same
 

Lethe

Captain
A few comments:

1) Releasing chaff and flares as part of an intercept, coupled with close maneuvering, represents a significant escalation in PLA hostility toward the presence of (in this case) Australian aircraft.

2) There are no rules, treaties or agreements governing interactions between military aircraft. I surmise this from what is not alleged, i.e. it is not alleged that China's behaviour violated any such agreements. Lots of talk of "unprofessional", "unsafe" or violation of "norms", nothing concrete.

3) Canberra has not disclosed the location of the P-8 at the time of the incident, nor its heading and precise mission. When Canberra complained about the presence of a Chinese surveillance ship outside Australia's territorial waters a couple of weeks back (with then-Defence Minister Peter Dutton describing the vessel's presence as "an act of aggression"), they supplied a map complete with timestamps and distances. The lack of such detail here indicates that the Australian government has something to hide. The "South China Sea" is an enormous region, and it is very likely that the P-8 was operating in close proximity to China, very plausibly in surveillance of Chinese naval activities. At the very least, it suggests that the Australian government believes that providing more detail as to where the incident occurred would not be helpful to the public narrative of unprovoked Chinese aggression.
 

escobar

Brigadier
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