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Blitzo

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Whoever it was it must have been for extraordinary feat. This isn't just at the level of merit within PLA but accolade at a national level, I don't think this has happened before.

It could have just been an awkward send out, and there are some people living in China saying they haven't received the notification, so the scale is yet to be determined.

For this kind of thing it is important for us to hold fire if the details cannot be substantiated, to prevent excessive enthusiastic speculation.


At the very least, do PLA watching a favour and don't post this kind of stuff on places like LCD on Reddit when there is little of substance other than "a possible large scale push alert about a bomber unit was done, but we don't know much else". Other places will rightfully ask for receipts and if you can't show them then you end up giving PLA watching a bad name.

Sometimes if news cannot yet be determined to a given level of concreteness, and if it comes across as too self congratulatory, then it is better to avoid spreading it elsewhere.
 

zszczhyx

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It could have just been an awkward send out, and there are some people living in China saying they haven't received the notification, so the scale is yet to be determined.
Every year, there are SMS pushes about individuals or groups who have been awarded the title of "Model of the Times" by the Publicity Department, and the time and frequency are not fixed.
 

coolgod

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Yes, my current phone received SMS about "硬骨头六连" in 2020 and the Army Engineering University "星火" team in 2022.
The previous SMS messages were sent smaller in scale and not as prestigious as the one that was just sent out. This is evident just from the general weibo responses and polls where 3/4 of the participants confirmed they received the SMS
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My phone has never received anything like that before, the H-6K "Model of the Times" was the first of its kind I received. Was your previous 硬骨头六连 SMS in 2020 also accompanied by special programs on multiple CCTV channels? Was it sent out immediately after an important diplomatic meeting between the world superpowers?
 
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zszczhyx

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The previous SMS messages were sent smaller in scale and not as prestigious as the one that was just sent out. This is evident just from the weibo responses. My phone has never received anything like that before, the H-6K "Model of the Times" was the first of its kind I received.

Was your previous 硬骨头六连 SMS in 2020 also accompanied by special programs on multiple CCTV channels? Was it sent out immediately after an important diplomatic meeting between the world superpowers?
How do you know it was smaller in scale? I didn't receive SMS messages every time when someone was awarded. And the number of SMS is different every year, I only received two in 2022, much less than 2020 and 2021.

CCTV-1 has a permanent program called
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in collaboration with the Publicity department, everyone awarded "时代楷模" would have a special program. The multiple CCTV channels you are talking about are actually only CCTV-1 and CCTV-7. In terms of the number of channels, this year is no different from before.
 

coolgod

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How do you know it was smaller in scale? I didn't receive SMS messages every time when someone was awarded. And the number of SMS is different every year, I only received two in 2022, much less than 2020 and 2021.

CCTV-1 has a permanent program called
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in collaboration with the Publicity department, everyone awarded "时代楷模" would have a special program. The multiple CCTV channels you are talking about are actually only CCTV-1 and CCTV-7. In terms of the number of channels, this year is no different from before.
If the scale of previous SMS messages was the same, why was there no weibo trending posts previously? If the 时代楷模 was a common occurrence why is there a sudden excitement among the netizens now and not before? The weibo poll I linked showed 3/4 of the netizens who responded they received the SMS. Since the 时代楷模 SMS distribution isn't strongly correlated with
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follower distribution, the results are relatively representative. Are you suggesting on average each of the previous 时代楷模 SMS reached a scale of 3/4 of all mobile subscribers in China, but everyone somehow ignored it before, but decided to get all hyped up just for this time?
 
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zszczhyx

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If the scale of previous SMS messages was the same, why was there no weibo trending posts previously? If the 时代楷模 was a common occurrence why is there a sudden excitement among the netizens now and not before? The weibo poll I linked showed 3/4 of the netizens who responded they received the SMS. Since the 时代楷模 SMS distribution isn't strongly correlated with
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follower distribution, the results are relatively representative. Are you suggesting on average each of the previous 时代楷模 SMS reached a scale of 3/4 of all mobile subscribers in China, but everyone somehow ignored it before, but decided to get all hyped up just for this time?
We are moving away from the topic.

Are you sure there was no Weibo trending post about 时代楷模 before? I think we should first consider whether just ourselves or everyone overlooked the report on 时代楷模 in the past. I recommend you to use
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to check, at least you forgot 张桂梅. According to the Weibo trend data, the attention on H6K remained for only two hours. The honor title isn't the reason why netizens (actually I think just military fans) are excited. In the current context of poor China-US relation, any rumors about a confrontation between the Chinese and American military will attract their attention.

Then I didn't say the scale was the same, what I want to emphasize is that we don't know. Considering the sample size is too small, hard to say the result has representative.
 

coolgod

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We are moving away from the topic.

Are you sure there was no Weibo trending post about 时代楷模 before? I think we should first consider whether just ourselves or everyone overlooked the report on 时代楷模 in the past. I recommend you to use
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to check, at least you forgot 张桂梅. According to the Weibo trend data, the attention on H6K remained for only two hours. The honor title isn't the reason why netizens (actually I think just military fans) are excited. In the current context of poor China-US relation, any rumors about a confrontation between the Chinese and American military will attract their attention.

Then I didn't say the scale was the same, what I want to emphasize is that we don't know. Considering the sample size is too small, hard to say the result has representative.

If you choose not to believe the abnormally large number of netizens on weibo who claimed to have received this SMS and not many others just admit it and move on. No need to pull shenanigans about sample size is "too small", unless you plan to use actual statistics to justify exactly how the results of polling 4773 people on a yes/no question is not representative of the scale of SMS sent to mobile customers throughout China.

I didn't find the tool you linked helpful as it didn't give any other previous Weibo trends about military manuvers earning the 时代楷模 award before. How is the 张桂梅 example relevant to your point? Are you trying to say the H-6K crew achieve something monumental like what 张桂梅 did? Clearly the CPC publicity department texting approximately 3/4 of Chinese mobile users about some military achievement is already a big deal.
 
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