PLA AEW&C, SIGINT, EW and MPA thread

schlieffen

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Isn't Y-9 basically a Y-8 category III platform with a rear loading ramp?

I recall someone was talking about a new wing for Y-9, is it unique for the Y-9 (transport) or already used on the category III platform?
 

challenge

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from takungpao.com (11/22/2011)
article from takungpao.report joint PLAAF/PLAN exercise in yellow sea.involving PLAN AWACS and PLAAF fighter.
in the exercise , PLAN AWACS detected "stealth" cruise missile,using data link to cue 4 PLAAF fighters to the target ,the cruise missile flying at low level was detected from fighter on board radar,locked on and intercepted by air to air missile.
report do not specific what kinds of fighter were use or what type of missile.likely PLAAF J-11 and PLAN KJ-200.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Isn't Y-9 basically a Y-8 category III platform with a rear loading ramp?

I recall someone was talking about a new wing for Y-9, is it unique for the Y-9 (transport) or already used on the category III platform?

No it should be longer(stretched), higher Pay load, more modern avionic,Longer range. It was delay again and again but finally it see the daylight
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At the September 2005 International Aviation Expo held in Beijing, Shaanxi Aircraft Industry (Group) Co. Ltd unveiled its Y-9 multi-purpose transport aircraft design. A substantial redesign of the Shaanxi Y-8 (Chinese copy of the An-12 Cub), the aircraft was initially revealed to the public at the 2002 Zhuhai Air Show under the name of Y-8X concept transport. It is said to be comparable to the U.S. Lockheed Martin C-130J transport in general performance.

The development of the Y-8X began in 2001 to meet the requirements of the PLA Air Force for a capable and advanced medium-size tactical transport aircraft to replace the ageing Y-8. The project aims to develop a multi-purpose turboprop transport aircraft that approaches or in some aspects exceeds the performance of the U.S. C-130J. The development is believed to have been assisted by The Ukraine-based Antonov Aeronautical Scientific-technical Complex (ASTC) aircraft company.

During the 2005 Beijing International Aviation Expo, Shaanxi revealed more details about the Y-8X, now re-designated Y-9. Compared to the Y-8, the new aircraft features a more spacious cargo cabin, fast loading/uploading system, improved WJ-6C turboprop engines, six-blade propellers, and a “glass cockpit”. The aircraft can be used for both military and civil flights.

The Y-9 ’s wings are high-mounted with four turboprop engines mounted under the wings’ leading edges. The aircraft utilises six-blade JL-4 propellers made of composite materials. The rear cargo door, which also serves as a ramp, allows cargo to be quickly loaded/unloaded. The tail flats and fin are mounted high. The aircraft has a two-wheel nose landing gear and two four-wheel main landing gears.

The payload requirement of the Y-9 includes a range of military vehicles, helicopters, cargo containers, pallets, and paratroopers. The Y-9 can air-drop paratroops and equipment either by parachute or gravity extraction. It can perform wither single or multiple airdrops of paratroopers and cargo. The aircraft can carry nine international standard pallets of 108'' X 88'' or eight 125'' X 96'', or 132 armed paratroopers.

Specifications

Flight crew: 4
Cargo cabin size: (length/width/height) 16.2m/3.2m/2.35m
Empty weight: 39,000kg
Maximum take-off weight: 77,000kg
Overloading take-off weight: 81,000kg
Payload: Normal 25,000kg; Maximum 30,000kg; or 132 armed paratroopers; or vehicles and weapons
Cruising speed: 600~650km/h
Cruising altitude: 9,000m
Range: Ferry range with max payload 7,800km
Flight endurance: 12 hours

Last update: 25 April 2007
 

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Hendrik_2000

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That info is old. Do we have any pictures of Y-9?

Design data is what Shaanxi aim to achieve so what if it old . That is the parameter that Y-9 is designed for
Don't forget that the plane has to be certified . Without certification no sale.

Certification mean the plane meet all the design spec!
 
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Blitzo

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Does it makes sense to equip AWACs with all-round high performance IR coverage systems in addition to radars?

Do you mean MAWS, LWR? I think the wedgetail has the most comprehensive self defense suite on an AEW&C aircraft I've seen, while older generation E-3s do not seem to carry identifiable MAWS that I can see. I think there is a certain logic in equpping your AEW&C with an all round MAWS but nothing on the scale of EODAS. You also got to factor in the kind of region your aircraft will be operating in and the fighters you have to back it up. I think the USAF could get away with not equipping AEW&Cs with self defense suites with all their fighters as the vanguard, while say RAAF or PAF might want greater self defense capability etc etc.
I think optimally, all miitary aircraft should have some kind of MAWS in place, but of course the problem's money.

Btw we can see MAWS on ZDK-03 for pakistan, but interestingly we cannot, for KJ-200 for the PLAAF, if that gives you an idea of the threat environments both air forces intend their AEW&C to operate in. Also interesting is that the Y-8Q we saw shows one aircraft with MAWS apertures, another without. But I think that's a matter of not having installed it yet.
 
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