Pakistan Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
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asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan
btw after the 1st one is completed the 2nd one will be made in Pakistan with a opition for a extra 2 more which is good news, total could be 2+2
range is said to be 500 miles and C802 can go 110 miles putting many Indian ports in range
PN is also said to be working on a ship borne UAV for this ship
btw after the 1st one is completed the 2nd one will be made in Pakistan with a opition for a extra 2 more which is good news, total could be 2+2
range is said to be 500 miles and C802 can go 110 miles putting many Indian ports in range
PN is also said to be working on a ship borne UAV for this ship
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan
What are the specs of the Indian FAC? They might both be called an FAC, but there could be a world of difference in what the two types can do.
What are the specs of the Indian FAC? They might both be called an FAC, but there could be a world of difference in what the two types can do.
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan
Displacement: 325 tons
Length: 48.9 m
Depth: 4 m
Propulsion: 3 water jet propulsion engines producing 11,238 hp
Speed: 35+ knots
Range: 2,000 miles 12-14 knots
Crew: 4 officers and 45 sailors
Armament:
1 x CRN-91 30mm autocannon(optical scope?)
Igla SA-18 SAM(hand carried)
2 x 12.7mm HMGs
ASW capability
Overall the Indian version is smaller and faster, carries 4 times as many crew, it will probably out perform the Pakistan FAC for boarding attacks, but otherwise inferior.
Edit: I'm not sure what the ASW capability is, but the Indians claim it has sonar or some other functions.
Displacement: 325 tons
Length: 48.9 m
Depth: 4 m
Propulsion: 3 water jet propulsion engines producing 11,238 hp
Speed: 35+ knots
Range: 2,000 miles 12-14 knots
Crew: 4 officers and 45 sailors
Armament:
1 x CRN-91 30mm autocannon(optical scope?)
Igla SA-18 SAM(hand carried)
2 x 12.7mm HMGs
ASW capability
Overall the Indian version is smaller and faster, carries 4 times as many crew, it will probably out perform the Pakistan FAC for boarding attacks, but otherwise inferior.
Edit: I'm not sure what the ASW capability is, but the Indians claim it has sonar or some other functions.
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plawolf
Lieutenant General
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan
As I said, a world of difference.
The FAC-M is more than twice the displacement of the Car Nicobar Class (288tn normal, 325tn max).
In terms of displacement, armaments and capabilities, the two are in completely different classes. In fact, at 600 tons, and with the firepower the FAC-M is packing, it could easily be classed as a Corvette.
The Russian Tarantul class would be a good example of a very similarly armed corvette with less displacement.
As I said, a world of difference.
The FAC-M is more than twice the displacement of the Car Nicobar Class (288tn normal, 325tn max).
In terms of displacement, armaments and capabilities, the two are in completely different classes. In fact, at 600 tons, and with the firepower the FAC-M is packing, it could easily be classed as a Corvette.
The Russian Tarantul class would be a good example of a very similarly armed corvette with less displacement.
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan
Of course I don't mean to say the Car Nicobar Class has the same capabilities as the FAC-M, my point is that FAC-M is on the high end of the spectrum in terms of quality and price, at least in that region.
I do wonder if they should allow more crews to operate on the FAC-M, because they are only employing 12-14 people with 50 million worth of equipment, whereas India is employing ~50 people with only 11.2 million. A lot of Pakistan sailors are going to lose their jobs if their navy purchase increasingly automated systems.
Of course I don't mean to say the Car Nicobar Class has the same capabilities as the FAC-M, my point is that FAC-M is on the high end of the spectrum in terms of quality and price, at least in that region.
I do wonder if they should allow more crews to operate on the FAC-M, because they are only employing 12-14 people with 50 million worth of equipment, whereas India is employing ~50 people with only 11.2 million. A lot of Pakistan sailors are going to lose their jobs if their navy purchase increasingly automated systems.
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan
I just took a look at this Indian FAC. It doesn't look that stealthy nor does it have any kind of fire power. The AK-630 on the FAC-M alone should overwhelm the all the guns on the Indian FAC. I'm not sure why it's a good thing to carry more crew, since that just adds to the expense of maintaining and keeping the ship operational. btw, let's not bring Indian ships in here every time we talk about Pakistan since I don't want to turn this forum into India vs Pakistan.
I just took a look at this Indian FAC. It doesn't look that stealthy nor does it have any kind of fire power. The AK-630 on the FAC-M alone should overwhelm the all the guns on the Indian FAC. I'm not sure why it's a good thing to carry more crew, since that just adds to the expense of maintaining and keeping the ship operational. btw, let's not bring Indian ships in here every time we talk about Pakistan since I don't want to turn this forum into India vs Pakistan.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan
if thats ur idea of a career in the navy then i suggest u never join, to be fair if u want job then stick to industry and public sector civilian job, cus when joining the military u join to serve and defend the country its not a cruise ship holiday or a 9-5 normal job, ur life is on the line and u must be prepared to pay the ultimate price
goverment is doing enough to create jobs for civilians back at home, putting less sailors on a ship only means good cus it will limit the loss of life if the situation occurs, people dont join navy for sake of a job, they know what it means, this kind of thought doesnt even cross their minds
if thats ur idea of a career in the navy then i suggest u never join, to be fair if u want job then stick to industry and public sector civilian job, cus when joining the military u join to serve and defend the country its not a cruise ship holiday or a 9-5 normal job, ur life is on the line and u must be prepared to pay the ultimate price
goverment is doing enough to create jobs for civilians back at home, putting less sailors on a ship only means good cus it will limit the loss of life if the situation occurs, people dont join navy for sake of a job, they know what it means, this kind of thought doesnt even cross their minds
hwy401
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Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan
I urge with asif life and training more importan then the price of the ship.how long you train 1 sailer to contro the ship .I like the one pak fac-m one then india .more high tech is better you don't need much people with the ship you don't need to.and I can put all that people in 3 ship then only 1
I urge with asif life and training more importan then the price of the ship.how long you train 1 sailer to contro the ship .I like the one pak fac-m one then india .more high tech is better you don't need much people with the ship you don't need to.and I can put all that people in 3 ship then only 1