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delft

Brigadier
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan

Might Pakistan want to build them itself, after evaluating the first two?
 

no_name

Colonel
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan

Is type 022 for sale and would Pakistan be interested if it is? It is only 100t smaller and aside from main gun and ASW rocket pretty much packs the same anti-ship firepower.
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan

it looks like 054
Too small to be 054, but does have line characteristics.

600 tons
1 x Chinese AK-176M 76.2 mm
4 x 2 C-802A anti-ship missiles\
2 x 6-cell RDC-32 ASW rocket launchers
2 x CIWS

Quite a punch for its size. But no helo and the sensors will be much weaker than the 054 IMHO.

Here's a larger pic:

1316411149_25022.jpg
 
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MwRYum

Major
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan

Is type 022 for sale and would Pakistan be interested if it is? It is only 100t smaller and aside from main gun and ASW rocket pretty much packs the same anti-ship firepower.

022 is purebred missile boat bore homage to the old Soviet missile boat warfare doctrine, which'd need a large numbers of them to make it work, not to mention of its single purpose nature make it not economical for the likes of Pakistani Navy, something like corvette or OPV are better investment for mission flexibility.

Further about the new ship, armaments should be the 37/40mm gun at the "A" position, and AShM mounted at the aft position, no room for SAM or CIWS turret position so either the air defense has to be undertake by the forward gun (looks like unmanned automatic type slaved to FCS) or MANPAD by the crew.

In any case, the aft deck is too small for even a helipad (UAV may still possible, though).
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan

very modern looking and a very good ship for PN, but 2 or 3 does not do it justice, PN should up the order to atleast 6-8 I have no idea why they have ordered just 2 of these

PN already makes the Jalalat II missile boats so making more of these under ToT should not be too much of a problem

it is interesting to see majority of PN and PAF now use Chinese built/designed weapons, even the air force which has traditionally enjoyed Western systems for decades has cut Erieye order and got Chinese AWACSs and cut the F16 C/D Block 52+ order to 18 and optted for J10 or FC-20 as they call it in Pakistan

Maybe 2 or 3 for now to get the current class of sailors get acquainted with the new ship, therefore they then be able to teach the other sailors in later years.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan

The Type 730 might be too big, but an AK630 or two would fit fine.

They would not leave the rear deck empty, my guess is that they will put two patrol boats on the aft open deck to facilitate boarding of smaller ships or scouting.

As for the 022, well the boats by themselves are rather useless. The tiny radars they do carry are nowhere near powerful enough for them to use their missiles. If Pakistan buys the Type 022, they would need to also purchase all the support and off-board targeting assets that allow those boats to function in their intended role.

I do not expect that to come cheap, and getting enough 022s to use them the way the boats were designed is not going to be cheap either.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan

Where's the sonar dome or bulge on this ship? Don't want the same thing happen to it like the Cheonnan (South Korean naval ship sunk by the DPRK). Does anyone has pics on that shows the bottom of the hull?
 

MwRYum

Major
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan

Say, if China is building these for Pakistan, that means at some point the Chinese have shown off models of them at those trade exhibitions, right? Could anyone able to dig something up?
 

HKSDU

Junior Member
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan

i have a feeling it's for China's coast guard. fast and packs moderate firepower.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Re: China Got A New Ship For Pakistan

Type 022 is not practical for PN but more small, fast, mobile missile patrol boats would be good which is what PN is looking to build up, equipped with anti-ship missiles can be a serious concern for opposing navys(like iran has done) , PN cant match ship for ship against India so alternative approach is neccasary plus lossing a large destroyer hits moral of the service man, like ARA General Belgrano

and lessons from 1971 show that we do need a airdefence coverage for our coast, land based Type 730 CIWS would not be a bad idea , Israel has done with with Phalanx in Northern Border

however I hope we hear some good news regarding SSK, and new modern frigates, they would add a termendous boost to the navy
 
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