Pakistan Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
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Indian drone, captured in Pakistan
In the good old days, Pak's J-6s carrying AA missiles
The good old days when the Martin Baker ejection seat cost as much as the actual plane…
Interesting news via one of the credible sources ...
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Interesting since it confirms my scepticism regarding "Pakistan will receive its J-31 as early as mid/late 2025" & also regarding the training ... but I also don't believe that the PLAN will give then -35 soon, they will need them all for their own units & training. But let's wait and see.
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Interesting since it confirms my scepticism regarding "Pakistan will receive its J-31 as early as mid/late 2025" & also regarding the training ... but I also don't believe that the PLAN will give then -35 soon, they will need them all for their own units & training. But let's wait and see.
But, OTH it also affirms that the news circulating of PAF getting NGFA in next couple of years are proved to be true while one can argue on type whether to be J31 or J35 to justify.
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To be precisely, it confirms the PAF is interested and aims for, if it is indeed "getting" them is a totally different story!
I also sometimes want a lot and then immediately ...
If this is true, and Pakistan inducts J-35 first and then J-31 then it could be an efficient way of building a land and a carrier capable force, if Pakistan would then acquire a carrier of some sorts, even with a ramp like Turkeys latest design, or a Type 076E. They could even join Turkeys carrier program.
I could imagine something like this..
1. Pakistani buys and inducts 24 J-35s
2. Pakistan later buys and inducts 24-48 J-31s
3. Pakistan buys a medium sized carrier with a ramp or a EM catapult.
They probably already have the surface ships and subs to make this a powerful CBG, especially in the Arabian Sea, without spending too much more than what is listed above. This seems like an efficient way to induct Chinas stealth fighters into your national forces.
I could imagine something like this..
1. Pakistani buys and inducts 24 J-35s
2. Pakistan later buys and inducts 24-48 J-31s
3. Pakistan buys a medium sized carrier with a ramp or a EM catapult.
They probably already have the surface ships and subs to make this a powerful CBG, especially in the Arabian Sea, without spending too much more than what is listed above. This seems like an efficient way to induct Chinas stealth fighters into your national forces.
After 2015, the Navy has received a lot of attention, as evidenced by the list below, and is now developing into a formidable force in Arabian Sea & Indian Ocean, giving PN a new look.
For the time being, a medium-sized carrier with an air arm does not fit under the PN doctrine (maybe possible post 2035) because the emphasis is currently on surface/sub-surface and anti-sub domains. Recently PAF has relocated a squadron (Haider) of JF17-III to Masroor base in Karachi in order to provide air cover.
IMO instead of purchasing J35, PAF, should lease a few to familiarize themselves with new technologies and systems until J31 becomes available, as PN did with the Yuan class.
PN Fleet (Current/on active duty):
- 04 (FFGs) - F22Ps
- 04 (FFGs) - 054A/Ps
- 01 (FFGs) - OHP
- 01 (CORs) - Milgem
- 03 (CORs) - Damen OPV design
- 03 (SSKs) - A90Bs (MLU-ed)
- 07 (MPAs) - P3C Orion
- 05 (MPAs) - RAS/ATR72
- 03 (AORs) - Tankers/replenishment
- 05 (MCVs) - Mine Hunters
- 05 (CH4) - HALE drones
PN Fleet (post 2025-30):
- 04 (FFGs) - F22Ps (will receive MLU)
- 04 (FFGs) - 054A/Ps
- 04 (FFGs) - Jinnah (2+2 batch, based on AS3400/3600 design)
- 04 (CORs) - Milgem
- 04 (CORs) - Damen OPV design
- 03 (SSKs) - A90Bs (MLU-ed)
- 08 (SSKs) - 039Bs
- 07 (MPAs) - P3C Orion
- 08 (MPAs) - RAS/Sea Eagle
- 04 (LRMPA) - Sea Sultan (Based on lineage 1000)
- 04 (AORs) - Tankers/replenishment
- 08 (MCVs) - Mine Hunters
- 05 (CH4) - HALE drones
- 05 (TW328) - HALE drones
PN Fleet (post 2030):
- 04 (FFGs) - F22Ps (MLU-ed)
- 04 (FFGs) - 054A/Ps
- 08 (FFGs) - Jinnah (2+6 batch, based on AS3400/3600 design)
- 04 (CORs) - Milgem
- 04 (CORs) - Damen OPV design
- 03 (SSKs) - A90Bs (MLU-ed)
- 08 (SSKs) - 039Bs
- 08 (SSK-Ns) - Type-41/?? New upcoming Chines design
- 09 (SSPs) - Italian Design (S1000)
- 08 (MPAs) - RAS/Sea Eagle
- 12 (LRMPA) - Sea Sultan (Based on lineage 1000)
- 06 (AORs) - Tankers/replenishment
- 08 (MCVs) - Mine Hunters
- 05 (CH4) - HALE drones
- 05 (TW328) - HALE drones
FFGs - 16
CORV - 08
SSKs - 11
SSPs - 09
SSK(N) - 08
MPAs - 08
LRMPAs - 12
Drones - 10 (HALE)
AORs - 06
MCVs - 08
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