Olympics 2024 - discussion thread

[manqiangrexue]

Hmmm, this must be quite a humiliating lose. The way her opponent threw that kind of a tantrum after she got beat was terrible and honestly uncalled for. After a bit of check, it seems that she really is born a woman with an extremely strong physique and not transgender like i gave originally thought based on some preliminary news, I honestly felt terrible from that one, she deserved her win and I admit, she is built to win as well. Damn this Olympics is a racism filled cluster frig, any time a western athlete got their buts kicked, they complain like brats.

Don't feel bad for it. Swyer Syndrome has an XY chromosome pair. It is, by scientific definition, a male, but due to this translocation between the X and Y homologous areas, testosterone production can be totally female, or it can be elevated. Phenotypically, it means that the person can undergo absent masculinization or incomplete/partial masculinization. Looking at Imane, it is certainly the latter, not the former; same with the one from Taiwan. Jamie Lee Curtis is a famous example of absent or near absent masculinization; hence, nobody would suspect him of having Swyer Syndrome or being an abnormal person upon examination with the eye. In other words, these 2 boxers are men (XY chromosome is never a scientific female regardless of what woke culture says) who were born with a disorder that makes them extremely umprepared to compete with normal men, but can still outmatch normal women.

This is a picture of a Swyer individual with true absent/near absent masculinization. He looks nothing like either of the Swyer Boxers in these Olympics.

By the way, I realized we are doing pretty well in the ladies' boxing.
50kg: Semifinals
54kg: Semifinals
57kg: Quarterfinals
60kg: Finals
66kg: Semifinals
75kg: Quarterfinals

We've literally not been eliminated from any category yet! On a sadder note, we have literally no men still alive in any of the male categories... How can the difference be this big?

 

[jiajia99]

Trans is an ideological thing first and foremost. She is not trans, but she was born with a condition that gives her, frankly speaking, unfair levels of testosterone.

I do not think olympics should be a fiesta of whoever can field the most "asthmatics" or random diseases that just happen to require medication or give advantages to the athletes. Olympics should be and stay PED free, the way China has practiced the Olympics so far.

That said, it's not like this Algerian woman is unbeatable, but I do not think it's fair that 1 athlete is allowed to have much more testosterone than baseline. It's hypocritical to criticise western PED farming in swimming while allowing this essentially legalized testosterone abuse.

Clean athletes beating athletes with PEDs still happen, but I don't find it fair to the clean athletes.

Oh well, consider it a blessing in someways and one must respect the fact she made good use of it and scored the gold. If being born with that level of testosterone is bad, I consider the obvious hormone abuse by the USA and the rest to be far worse given how they love to claim others are cheating when they get beaten anyhow. I wouldn’t begrudge the fact she has that particular advantage since well if she fought fair even with that, who are we to judge. Who knows, her opponent might’ve had the same drug induced advantage and we don’t know about it and she simply went up against a juggernaut who needed none of those things and got her ass beat to the point she cried that she was that much weaker. These days, the media has gotten much more emotionally charged then usual

 

[Index]

Oh well, consider it a blessing in someways and one must respect the fact she made good use of it and scored the gold.

That's not how it works. She had something that a baseline healthy athlete can never get.

If being born with that level of testosterone is bad, I consider the obvious hormone abuse by the USA and the rest to be far worse

They are equally bad and should both be disallowed. What would you say if it's our natural athlete that has to fight an American athlete who "just happens" to have male testosterone levels? Or how about what will you say when US fields an entire team of only male testosterone level women? Easy to bribe some doctor and the non-transparent, western pocketed WADA to testify that the whole US female team has some genetic conditions.

given how they love to claim others are cheating

That is part of their cheating as well, to psych out opponents and to save face at home alike. The fact that our enemies are so willing to cheat should be a call to China that we should champion the return of the Olympics back to the gold standard - fair play, no hormone doped up athletes, no PEDs, sportsmanship.

 

[Mcsweeney]

Anyone know what the issue is with Chinese basketball? It's kinda embarrassing how there isn't a single Chinese NBA player right now when even tiny countries like Croatia can produce a few. That said, I'm not gonna lose sleep over China not doing well in a Western-made sport. It's kind of like how I follow and root for Wei Yi to eventually become the #1 ranked chess player in the world, but don't really care if it never happens because I'd rather they promote and spread the popularity of Go/Weiqi worldwide, which is a better game anyway (and get back to being #1 in that game as well instead of those pesky Koreans).

 

[sndef888]

Update on gold prospects remaining

High chance
3 in table tennis
4 in diving
2 in synchro swimming
5-6 in weightlifting

and maybe:
~1 in badminton
~2-3 in gymnastics (men's rings, parallel bar, high bar) >> really important that Zhang Boheng doesn't choke

Currently at 16
Estimated final golds (based on these sports only) are 30-35

Not including some I'm unsure of like athletics, boxing, wrestling, volleyball and other team sports where quite a few more could also come. Also a final chance in swimming 4x100 men's relay if Pan can carry China's weak men's breaststroke

 

[Randomuser]

Anyone know what the issue is with Chinese basketball? It's kinda embarrassing how there isn't a single Chinese NBA player right now when even tiny countries like Croatia can produce a few. That said, I'm not gonna lose sleep over China not doing well in a Western-made sport. It's kind of like how I follow and root for Wei Yi to eventually become the #1 ranked chess player in the world, but don't really care if it never happens because I'd rather they promote and spread the popularity of Go/Weiqi worldwide, which is a better game anyway (and get back to being #1 in that game as well instead of those pesky Koreans).

I mean Ding Liren is already champ. Too bad he is semiretired. I'm just hoping he makes one title defense to prove the haters wrong and that's it.

 

[Randomuser]

As I predicted China will probably lose out getting gold in badminton for female singles. He Bingjiao is getting her ass kicked. What a waste of a slot.

I hope someone investigates the person who made the decision. Either for corruption or competency issue. I guess in sporting, some of the crappy aspects still exist.

 

[Mcsweeney]

I mean Ding Liren is already champ. Too bad he is semiretired. I'm just hoping he makes one title defense to prove the haters wrong and that's it.

It's great that Ding Liren is champion but the situation with Magnus not playing means he can't really be considered the best.

 

[sndef888]

As I predicted China will probably lose out getting gold in badminton for female singles. He Bingjiao is getting her ass kicked. What a waste of a slot.

I hope someone investigates the person who made the decision. Either for corruption or competency issue. I guess in sporting, some of the crappy aspects still exist.

Normally I don't like to criticize athletes even if they choke but He Bingjiao is really so bad. She's just not agile enough

But in a crazy twist of fate Carolina Marin has torn her ACL once again. Really heartbroken for her because she's been a great player for so long and really deserves the win more than He Bingjiao

 

[pbd456]

Hope He can out perform tomorrow