Olympics 2024 - discussion thread

PandaAI

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Chinese trampoliners both didn't perform well and missed out on gold.

Curse of the gymnastics team continues

Why gymnastics team performing so poorly? I’m not familiar with gymnastics. Has great gymnasts retired or coach changed or not performing under Olympics pressure?
 

getready

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Chinese trampoliners both didn't perform well and missed out on gold.

Curse of the gymnastics team continues
It’s so frustrating. I had it on the background screen and Zhu xueying the Chinese defending Olympics champion was doing very well. she qualified first to reach the final. I heard the commentator said she won multiple golds and silvers in recent world cups so her form seem good. Not sure what went wrong in her routine to miss out on medals. Maybe she was underscored?

He Yicheng the second Chinese girl made huge error though. I saw it live, on her third jump she landed too close to the edge and hit the trampoline hard. Had to end her routine. She is also very experienced, sometimes rookie errors happens to the best of them I guess.

when’s the men’s final?

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getready

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They were supposed to use Qin for the breaststroke part but he's not reliable.

He basically is gonna cost China 4 potential golds. I always knew he was overhyped and could never do it on the big stages.

Meanwhile Pan has swam in so many races in Paris just to gain the experience of the pool so he can conquer it. Unlike Qin he is opposite and made Paris his biatch. He saved the mixed relay but how many times are they gonna rely on him?
Too harsh on Qin haiyang. He was dominant in last years world champs and the world cups. He still have the 200 m breast world record. I think mentally he was under too much pressure in Paris. They probably got to him.
 

Randomuser

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It’s so frustrating. I had it on the background screen and Zhu xueying the Chinese defending Olympics champion was doing very well. she qualified first to reach the final. I heard the commentator said she won multiple golds and silvers in recent world cups so her form seem good. Not sure what went wrong in her routine to miss out on medals. Maybe she was underscored?

He Yicheng the second Chinese girl made huge error though. I saw it live, on her third jump she landed too close to the edge and hit the trampoline hard. Had to end her routine. She is also very experienced, sometimes rookie errors happens to the best of them I guess.

when’s the men’s final?

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There's a lot of chokers who are missing out gold narrowly. Maybe China needs to spend more on sports psychology to keep their minds intact.
 

zbb

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US had 3 golds in shooting and has no medal so far. US is actually not doing as well as they had.
There are also events where US is doing really well. With only 4 out of the 14 gold medals in artistic gymnastics decided so far, the US has already matched their total of 2 golds from the Tokyo Olympics where the drug adderall was banned.
 

PandaAI

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There's a lot of chokers who are missing out gold narrowly. Maybe China needs to spend more on sports psychology to keep their minds intact.

Mental toughness is the main differentiator in top level sport. Just look how tough Djokovic is in tennis. He is a mental beast even when everyone is cheering his opponents. Performing under pressure is what separates the champions from the rest. Olympics you stay in the Olympic village so more distractions compared to a world championship where you can stay in your hotel and have no distractions. Mental skills coach is used by many sports now. It’s just as important as fitness coach or technical coach.
 

getready

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There's a lot of chokers who are missing out gold narrowly. Maybe China needs to spend more on sports psychology to keep their minds intact.
Yeah think that would help.

To be fair, the final in trampoline only allows the athletes to do one routine. The pressure is huge. 4 years of preparation and they only get one chance. One chance of a few jumps on the trampoline. Everything in less than a minute. A small margin of error too.

Heard the girls cried in the end. So sad to bomb out in the big one after being so good in the other competitons.
 

getready

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If you use Dong for breast, then are you leaving out Xu in the backstroke? Surely you can’t leave out Pan in the freestyle. I think the current composition is best with Xu to start and get ahead to give clear water for Tang. Then Zhang. Hope the women don’t fall behind by too much before handing off to Pan for the final leg. When China has won this event at the world champs, Xu has always put China in the lead. Then it was Qin for the breast followed by the ladies for the final 2 legs. Maybe the idea being create a big lead with the men and hope the ladies can bring it home.
Yup waves and splashes created from swimmers in adjacent lanes can slow you down. So yes in theory you like your two male swimmers swimming the first two legs . So you get a head start and clean waters. Back, breast, butterfly then lastly free is the order for medley relays.

in the past, Xu and Qin swam the first 2 legs and they gave the two female swimmers In butterfly and free a head start and clean water. China won the world champs using this formation. This new formation including Pan the man is abit risky. But I guess no way they will leave him out after his heroics.

I agree with you on this. All in all They needed to change. But I wonder if Qin was in form, would they risk changing the formation?
 

PandaAI

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Yup waves and splashes created from swimmers in adjacent lanes can slow you down. So yes in theory you like your two male swimmers swimming the first two legs . So you get a head start and clean waters. Back, breast, butterfly then lastly free is the order for medley relays.

in the past, Xu and Qin swam the first 2 legs and they gave the two female swimmers In butterfly and free a head start and clean water. China won the world champs using this formation. This new formation including Pan the man is abit risky. But I guess no way they will leave him out after his heroics.

I agree with you on this. All in all They needed to change. But I wonder if Qin was in form, would they risk changing the formation?

It will be a big call to leave out Pan. He is in form and literally the fastest freestyle swimmer in the history of the sport. But as said earlier, breaststroke is the biggest time difference between men and women. So if Qin was in form, he has to be there. Then it is Xu who has to be replaced even though he is the silver medalist in the 100m backstroke. I think the correct team composition is more important than having the best individuals.
 
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