Olympics 2024 - discussion thread

[manqiangrexue]

Secondly merging the HK team with China makes things worse in terms of probability of winning overall as a group. For example in badminton, each country can send two guys to play singles. With HK as a separate entity, China now has four guys as a group. If they are merged, China only has two players and if both catch a nasty cold or break their ankle then that's it. It's basically having two accounts.

That's all good and fine as long as the medals merge into China at the end; if they don't, then obviously it's pointless to have them. If anything, they become an extra team that China has to beat.

That's why people say if China can have extra accounts, why can't the US also have them?

The US does. Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands are US territories with their own accounts. But they didn't win shit so nobody cares.

 

[fishrubber99]

The US does. Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands are US territories with their own accounts. But they didn't win shit so nobody cares.

Now I'm imagining a scenario where Puerto Rico won 2 golds, the US won 39 and China won 40. You would totally see Americans lump together Puerto Rico and the US total medal count to get 41as a way of coping, though they definitely wouldn't apply the same standards and add HK + China together.

 

[Shaolian]

Now I'm imagining a scenario where Puerto Rico won 2 golds, the US won 39 and China won 40. You would totally see Americans lump together Puerto Rico and the US total medal count to get 41as a way of coping, though they definitely wouldn't apply the same standards and add HK + China together.

One thing is we don't care about the USA's own cope. They are already retards with their coping as is, with the medal table ranking by total. But this isn't how the table is presented by the IOC or the vast majority of the rest of the world.

I still remember, during the Tokyo Olympics, when a female Hong Kong ping-pong player (Doo Hoi Kem) squared up against China's Chen Meng in the quaterfinal. Doo won the first 2 sets, was all fired up, fist pumping and all. There was a surge of hatred inside of me against everything Hong Kong, and I'm a Cantonese. I was thinking to myself that the US must be laughing if they'd know of this situation. How lovely it is that it was your own countrymen that fucked up your own chances.

I can't find any better reasons why an athlete would not want to be representing his/her own country instead of his/her province. This fiasco has to end.

 

[Ringsword]

One thing is we don't care about the USA's own cope. They are already retards with their coping as is, with the medal table ranking by total. But this isn't how the table is presented by the IOC or the vast majority of the rest of the world.

I still remember, during the Tokyo Olympics, when a female Hong Kong ping-pong player (Doo Hoi Kem) squared up against China's Chen Meng in the quaterfinal. Doo won the first 2 sets, was all fired up, fist pumping and all. There was a surge of hatred inside of me against everything Hong Kong, and I'm a Cantonese. I was thinking to myself that the US must be laughing if they'd know of this situation. How lovely it is that it was your own countrymen that fucked up your own chances.

I can't find any better reasons why an athlete would not want to be representing his/her own country instead of his/her province. This fiasco has to end.

Thank Heaven you guys told me that the gold medal winner from HK has the Chinese anthem NOT the f#cking UK's God save the Queen/King-that would drive me over the edge.

 

[Lethe]

The saga

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, with USA Gymnastics submitting new video evidence to CAS that is claimed to establish that Team USA's appeal was submitted within the appropriate timeframe.

This is turning into a real shitshow.

CAS has denied the appeal from USA Gymnastics to further review the case in light of new video evidence submitted. As with the initial CAS ruling, this appears to be a procedural ruling with no comment on the merits of the evidence submitted.

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USA Gymnastics was notified by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) on Monday that their rules do not allow for an arbitral award to be reconsidered even when conclusive new evidence is presented. We are deeply disappointed by the notification and will continue to pursue every possible avenue and appeal process, including to the Swiss Federal Tribunal, to ensure the just scoring, placement, and medal award for Jordan.

The ad-hoc division of CAS operates by different rules intended to allow for expedited decisions associated with the Olympic Games period. It

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that the ad-hoc division itself can refer a case to the regular CAS procedure, but it's not clear if the parties themselves can appeal further within CAS. Hence it may be that the Swiss courts are the next port of call. Again, it is the athletes whom one feels sorry for amongst all this.

 

[Petrolicious88]

I'm just gonna assume we all steal because the US stole; if you could steal with a low chance of getting caught, wouldn't you steal too?

That's all I need to know about your morals.

The Olympics is part of the chest move. Each move matters and adds up over the next 25-30 years.

But let’s just focus on this part.

Stealing from family and friends or from other people is wrong.

U.S/China stealing from each other is wrong? Who gives a fuck if that’s wrong. We talking about geopolitics.

Leave morals out of it.

 

[broadsword]

Someone is clutching at straws. LOL.

 

[manqiangrexue]

The Olympics is part of the chest move. Each move matters and adds up over the next 25-30 years.

What move is it? How does it advance the positions on the ground between China/USA in the real world competitive rounds? Does it slow China's tech overtake? That's the most important fight in global dominance.

But let’s just focus on this part.

Stealing from family and friends or from other people is wrong.

Goooooood. Don't you forget it. There's a sproutling of a human being in you after all.

U.S/China stealing from each other is wrong?

When an athlete dopes, he steals from the world, including US allies. Americans have very few events where they compete directly with China but many where they compete with other Western countries. When American athletes dope, they steal mostly from these countries. With all the dope they can muster, they cannot prevent Chinese dominance in weightlifting, diving, table tennis, women's boxing.

Who gives a fuck if that’s wrong.

WADA, the IOC, sports fans and athletes all over the world who used to admire America's sporting prowess but now call them the asthma/ADHD/purple potato team. Even American fans themselves.

We talking about geopolitics.'

No, we're talking a game for entertainment.

Leave morals out of it.

Uh... no. Just because you're morally decrepit does not suddenly mean that sporting events become an all-out bug house cheat fest. This is the first time I've ever heard someone defend steroid usage in sports at all, not to mention so stubbornly and stupidly. The sporting world is in an uproar over WADA's revelations on USADA and it's hipocrisy on China and we're here to spread the fire.

 

[kwaigonegin]

I was thinking more of Evangeline Lily and some other blonde extras playing sexy elf women as extras-but she Russian coach has that ethereal beauty look.

Wrong movie.. she looks more like a member of Targaryens from GoT.

 

[Lethe]

India has appealed the disqualification of Vinesh Phogat from the women's 50kg Freestyle Wrestling final for being 100g overweight at weigh-in to CAS, seeking instatement of a Silver medal. The case is being heard before a sole arbitrator and the outcome was due to be announced today but has been postponed to August 13th.

Beyond fault of the weighing apparatus or failure of officials to adhere to procedure at the weigh-in, I find it difficult to envision the grounds for a successful appeal....

And yet CAS has delayed a verdict on this case for a second time, now for a further three days till August 16th. There must actually be some meaningful issues here that the ad-hoc division is grappling with.