Olympics 2024 - discussion thread

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Proton

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manqiangrexue said:
If that's true, then they wouldn't allow it, right? I think sharing means I've already done my best; I can go no further and I recognize my rival as my equal. It's humble, and indeed, neither jumper could go further. They just went on to jump lower heights to see who fucks up first.
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It's a loophole, if all remaining jumpers refuse to continue then the placements are decided by past jumps and if it's all equal then the placement is shared. It's abusing a technicality in the most cynical fashion, this has no place in sports.

Everyone can clear the first height on the first try and then everyone can win the Gold, if they all just agree on it.
It's perfectly allowed, it's just a matter of trust as they can only refuse to continue one at a time.
 
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Proton said:
It's a loophole, if all remaining jumpers refuse to continue then the placements are decided by past jumps and if it's all equal then the placement is shared. It's abusing a technicality in the most cynical fashion, this has no place in sports.

Everyone can clear the first height on the first try and then everyone can win the Gold, if they all just agree on it.
It's perfectly allowed, it's just a matter of trust as they can only refuse to continue one at a time.
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A loophole means to abuse a rule for something for which it was not intended. In this case, allowing the last 2 lifters to decide if they recognize each other as equal or not looks like it's exactly what the rule was created to do. I would certainly agree if all jumpers did 1 jump then agreed to share gold, that it would be abusing a loophole but it's not what happened and the IOC would probably DQ everyone for even trying something like that.

This rule to allow sharing does not exist in most sports, but it exists in high jump, pole vault, etc... Why? What was the intent if you think that using it when the last 2 guys have both maxed out at the same height is abuse/loophole?

I don't feel that strongly about it. You can wrap it up. I'm almost jumping out of my skin for the boxing match that's about to happen.
 
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manqiangrexue said:
A loophole means to abuse a rule for something for which it was not intended. In this case, allowing the last 2 lifters to decide if they recognize each other as equal or not looks like it's exactly what the rule was created to do. I would certainly agree if all jumpers did 1 jump then agreed to share gold, that it would be abusing a loophole but it's not what happened and the IOC would probably DQ everyone for even trying something like that.

This rule does not exist in most sports, but it exists in high jump, pole vault, etc... why? What was the intent if you think that using it when the last 2 guys have both maxed out at the same height is abuse/loophole?

I don't feel that strongly about it. You can wrap it up. I'm about to jump out of my skin for the boxing match that's about to happen.
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It's been abused once ever, in Tokyo.
Problem is the media decided to pretend this disgrace was something positive, thus no action was taken and we have a precedent.

There's specific rules to prevent a tie break - why do you think these even exist if the sportsmanlike way is to have a tie?
There's just no way to force athletes to keep jumping, what if they are injured?

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It's not up to the athletes to decide.
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What?
 
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sndef888 said:
China (currently 38) has

High chance:
1 in weightlifting
Possible:
~1 in boxing (75kg) >> starting soon

Estimated final golds: ~39 or 40


US (currently 37) has:

High chance:
2 in basketball
Possible:
~1 in women's volleyball
~1 in women's wrestling 76kg
~1 in women's omnium

To top medal tally:
If China wins boxing, US must win 2 or less events out of 5
If China loses boxing, US must win 1 or less events out of 5
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For China to top medal tally :
If China wins boxing (at 40), US must choke 2 of 3 possible events
If China loses boxing (at 39), US must choke all 3 possible events

They win by total medal counts but still great Olympics for all the breakthroughs from the Gen Z.
 
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Hell yeah, bros! Boxing gold. 40 gold medals in sight! Li Wenwen take it away! That's worth being happy about no matter what else happens or happened. How many of y'all thought this was possible when we were getting sabotaged in swimming and had that fucker fall twice on the high bar losing the gold medal in the gymnastics mens team??

Chinese women's team is the first dynasty of excellence to form since women's boxing was introduced into the Olympics! 3 gold, 2 silver out of 6 categories AND we withstood the injustice of losing a gold to a man!
 
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Men's basketball gold for US

So currently only these events left

High chance
~1 in women's basketball
Possible:
~1 in women's volleyball
~1 in women's wrestling 76kg
~1 in women's omnium

China will top medal tally (40 vs 39) if US only wins women's basketball and nothing else
China will match golds (40 vs 40) if US wins women's basketball + 1 more gold
 
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