Busy nigth it seems to be....lets see where we start...
REMEMBER THE BEST ASW IS THE SUBMARINE ITSELF ... I think this is the approach of PLAN. You can see PLAN has got so many submarines, even Ming class submarine is better than any Japanese ASW
Ming class is better than JMSDF ASW assets?. Ok that so silly claim that I want at least hundred word
detailed answer how it is so....And Im really waiting to hear that one
Submarines are good ASW, but not simply becouse they are submarines (that really is the sole advantage that Ming class have) but the equipment they carry. Like it came pointed out in here, best ASW asset is a combined fleet that knows what it is doing and exploids all three dimensions of it, Air, surface and submerged with intergated command. Most of all it still comes down to sonars that the fleet assets carries, without it, it would be like managing Air defences without radars.
When I see Thpuang defending Japanese and be therefore "anti-china", It really has to mean that someone has woken up with wrong foot and making claims that really are harmfull to chinese and gives a really bad image of the fans of chinese military
SAYING .... "PLAN as now is in similar level (and if out clude the 052C and 054A) in relative and unfortuanetly directly as well....as the JMSDF was in the mid 60's"
........... is the most ridiculous statement I have ever read, ..... just because PLAN just commisioned their first AAW destroyer classes in early 2000 doesn't mean PLAN level is the same as JMSDF in mid 60s.
If PLAN commisioned her first carrier in 2007, does it mean PLAN is the same level of USN in 1920s ?
The fact I used this apprevation is simply to show in what level of capacities PLAN now is. And Like I remember myself, I did use the word relatively, did I?
When some navy has completed its first AAW destroyers, it doesent mean that it has 100% capacity to field fleet AAW. It means that the navy has now got change to begun DEVOLPING its own assets and doctrines in this area. You guys seems to think that every weapon comes with so excencive manual that its fully operational system secconsd afrer its taken in use (....well Honestly speaking, most of you need is a rumour that it migth get into use is good enough to declaer chinese to have that capacity....)
BUT gues what, that isent the case. JMSDF fielded its first AAW destroyers in the 1962 (it took bit over two years to build and commision, at that time chinese couldnt even build destroyers...) and there begun JMSDF's path to create fleet AAW assets that have during these years wich has now forget into world class expertice.
China in other hand tryed to field its first AAW ship in 1973....it took almoust
20 years to complete a single ship....and the whole ship and system was nearly a failure and not fleet AAW level, but pedestarian point defence system....It managed to field its first true Fleet ASW asset in 2000's.
SO yeas, PLAN is now in the same situation with fleet AAW where JMSDF that Japanese were in the 60's...its first generation is fielded, and now beguns the training and forgin of the tradition that in nesseserical to any succesfull navy....
So instead of throwing claims and accusations made by purely from nationalistic pride and fury, Give some proves and base your claims into something other than out of the contest numerical comparisions found in naval charts.
....And last and final mistake is to start calling anyone ignorance or fit to comment when its So clear that most of you havent got sligthest clue of naval matters what so ever.
