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gadgetcool5 said:

It is voluntary though. The US has no jurisdiction over Europe or Korea or China. They could say screw the US, we are developing our own independent equipment and supply chains. But will they do it? No they won't. And even if it were involuntary, who cares? It makes no difference. At the end of the day, they choose to comply with the US, they will comply with the US. That is all that matters.

And not only chipmakers, but China's own consumers will abandon Huawei. Don't think the home market is safe. You can talk about patriotism all you want, but not many people want to go around with an inferior phone just to be politically correct.

And not only China's chipmakers and consumers, but Huawei's own employees will abandon Huawei. They already are, as many of their talented designers have jumped to other companies. Oppo. Vivo. Xiaomi. Samsung. Apple. There are plenty of alternatives. At the end of the day, no opportunities, no salary, no workers.

In short, Huawei will have no friends. The US government's power is so great that it can control and compel everyone. That is why China should seek better relations with the US instead of fighting.

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gadgetcool5 said:

It is voluntary though. The US has no jurisdiction over Europe or Korea or China. They could say screw the US, we are developing our own independent equipment and supply chains. But will they do it? No they won't. And even if it were involuntary, who cares? It makes no difference. At the end of the day, they choose to comply with the US, they will comply with the US. That is all that matters.

And not only chipmakers, but China's own consumers will abandon Huawei. Don't think the home market is safe. You can talk about patriotism all you want, but not many people want to go around with an inferior phone just to be politically correct.

And not only China's chipmakers and consumers, but Huawei's own employees will abandon Huawei. They already are, as many of their talented designers have jumped to other companies. Oppo. Vivo. Xiaomi. Samsung. Apple. There are plenty of alternatives. At the end of the day, no opportunities, no salary, no workers.

In short, Huawei will have no friends. The US government's power is so great that it can control and compel everyone. That is why China should seek better relations with the US instead of fighting.

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Petrolicious88 said:

Of course not. But China is just going to divest it’s companies, share source codes just because Trump or the US says so?

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gadgetcool5 said:

It is voluntary though. The US has no jurisdiction over Europe or Korea or China. They could say screw the US, we are developing our own independent equipment and supply chains. But will they do it? No they won't. And even if it were involuntary, who cares? It makes no difference. At the end of the day, they choose to comply with the US, they will comply with the US. That is all that matters.

And not only chipmakers, but China's own consumers will abandon Huawei. Don't think the home market is safe. You can talk about patriotism all you want, but not many people want to go around with an inferior phone just to be politically correct.

And not only China's chipmakers and consumers, but Huawei's own employees will abandon Huawei. They already are, as many of their talented designers have jumped to other companies. Oppo. Vivo. Xiaomi. Samsung. Apple. There are plenty of alternatives. At the end of the day, no opportunities, no salary, no workers.

In short, Huawei will have no friends. The US government's power is so great that it can control and compel everyone. That is why China should seek better relations with the US instead of fighting.

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manqiangrexue said:

It's "voluntary" in the sense that if someone told you they'll shut down your business and burn down your house if you don't do it, and you choose to do it, then it's voluntary. LOL Develop their own? How fast and how easy do you think it is?

Might I remind you that the maximum impact of this can only be limited to Huawei's cellphone sales, which is the extent of American influence through their remaining technology, as they erode their diplomacy. American power is so great it's losing a tussle with the cellphone arm of one Chinese company.

Demonstrate how China can get better relations with the US by getting better relations with me. Come on, walk the walk don't just talk the talk. The shit you say can't be defended and doesn't even make sense; you might as well say, "Find aliens and leapfrog using their technology" LOL. It's really boring hearing you repeat stupid nonsense without any answer to rebuttals. Sounds like a Falun Gong bot... "USA powerful. Make friends with USA. I am on China's side, pinky swear, wink. China lost, cannot survive without USA. I represent China in surrender. I'll be right in 80 years." LOL Spineless loser bot...

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gadgetcool5 said:

It is voluntary though. The US has no jurisdiction over Europe or Korea or China. They could say screw the US, we are developing our own independent equipment and supply chains. But will they do it? No they won't. And even if it were involuntary, who cares? It makes no difference. At the end of the day, they choose to comply with the US, they will comply with the US. That is all that matters.

And not only chipmakers, but China's own consumers will abandon Huawei. Don't think the home market is safe. You can talk about patriotism all you want, but not many people want to go around with an inferior phone just to be politically correct.

And not only China's chipmakers and consumers, but Huawei's own employees will abandon Huawei. They already are, as many of their talented designers have jumped to other companies. Oppo. Vivo. Xiaomi. Samsung. Apple. There are plenty of alternatives. At the end of the day, no opportunities, no salary, no workers.

In short, Huawei will have no friends. The US government's power is so great that it can control and compel everyone. That is why China should seek better relations with the US instead of fighting.

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Anlsvrthng said:

It will be long.

The Chinese chip developers using American software and hardware tools, to make them from scratch takes lot of effort that can not be parallelized.

Means they have to develop lot of interconnected tools that depends on each other, and influence / depend on each other.


Hard and takes long time.

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