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nugroho

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Hendrik_2000 said:
It is too late to contain China now They might prevent western company to hold IC equipment export to China but they CANNOT prevent people from Taiwan, Korea or Japan from working in China and money talk. China will recruit heavily from those places they already do now. In fact there are thousands of Taiwanese working in China And if anyone know IC it is the Taiwanese.
Beside it is not like 1950's Chinese industrial base, R&D, University are way much better than back then. And China has the financial power and political will to do it

this time it will be do or die situation So they will harness all the financial, and technical power of the whole nations It is just matter of time. And it is not the first time China was subjected to embargo You name it CNC machine, Satellite, Aircraft engine, economy, and every time China overcome it. Previous attempt has been half hearted and does not supported by the private sector since they choose the easy way out of importing and lack of strategic vision Yes now they are in pickle It is their undoing and they have themselves to blame.

So I want to write obituary on China semiconductor YET
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Are there risks that Taiwanese engineer sabotage China' s semiconductor development?
 
localizer

localizer

Colonel
Registered Member
nugroho said:
Are there risks that Taiwanese engineer sabotage China' s semiconductor development?
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It is an ongoing issue actually. Taiwan hires are there for the money, constant stalling to earn enough for retirement then they leave.

They get paid ~$300-$400k per year so they just need to stall for 3-5 years to retire.


I believe what most Chinese companies do nowadays when they hire foreigners (white, Chinese-Americans, Taiwan,...) is, unless they bring physical documents/samples or other things of actual value, then they don't hire the foreigner.

Say you're a biotech company, the person you hire must bring files, samples, connections, training for your people, ...
 
Hendrik_2000

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
localizer said:
It is an ongoing issue actually. Taiwan hires are there for the money, constant stalling to earn enough for retirement then they leave.

They get paid ~$300-$400k per year so they just need to stall for 3-5 years to retire.
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I don't think you can do that any project will have schedule and they are review every week If they are stalling for no purpose they will be fired. China does not hire exclusively Taiwanese There are Korean, Japanese etc
 
localizer

localizer

Colonel
Registered Member
Hendrik_2000 said:
I don't think you can do that any project will have schedule and they are review every week If they are stalling for no purpose they will be fired. China does not hire exclusively Taiwanese There are Korean, Japanese etc
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It used to be throwing money but companies are much more stringent now that more and more sea turtles are returning and foreigners coming.

But we all know SMIC is desperate and well funded.
 
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nugroho

Junior Member
Weaasel said:
While also ramping up production of chip making equipment and chip making materials in domestically, with the eventual aim of also having the capability of producing state of the art semiconductor related products of all types domestically, China can pay foreign companies in Japan and Europe to produce chip making equipment and chip making materials to make such equipment and materials from sources thoroughly devoid of US content to supply to Chinese companies like SMIC and Yangtze Memory so as to produce chips for Huawei base stations and mobile phone chips, as well as chips utilized by Xiaomi and Oppo, and other consumer electronics manufacturers, with the implicit threat to the likes Xiaomi and Oppo that they must include significant local content in their domestic sources of chips.

That means even RIGHT THIS VERY MOMENT get SMIC and other Chinese chip making companies equipment and materials from such non US sources.
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Maybe for one or two technologies, Japan would sell secretly, but for a whole, Japan will never help China whatever you pay for
 
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KIENCHIN

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JermaineJr said:
Yeah, Yo, for real Da man has done it, finally convinced Huawee to set up their own fab. For damn long time it got it's head stuck at it's behind. Rude awakening for sure. Yeah for real. Ok ok, Give credit where is due. U feel what I am saying. Huawee ain't go no process tech or shit like that. Da man convinced Huawee to source second handed & local equipment to quickly setup first fab this year, yup this year, ain't got no time to waste , u feel what I am saying (it's all good though). Yeah. Up for real business & keeping in tight for real. Yeah. Sourcing 45 & 28nm tech license from someone , yup. Once Huawee got second handed or even local equipments & have that someone helping it run da business. It can tell US take a hike. Yeah, posting the funky ads for litho engineers. Huawee 180 degree turnaround all due da man campaigning. For sure it gonna involve in euv game up next . Yeah, playing the role of integrator, & sponsor. Yeah. Keeping it tight. & Think outside of the box. 180 degree turnaround. Finally. U feel what I am saying. Its all good for da better. Yeah .
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I that you Tidal?, you’re back, god damn man how many account have you got dude. Are you telling us Huawei had finally brought you on as an adviser, right on dude. You’re the man!
 
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