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Yes, also base stations don't need 7nm node either, there is limited applications for chips past 14nm. Right now the goal is to maintain a supply of 5G base station chip.
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Yup....14nm or even 28nm is sufficient for 5G Base Stations.

Huawei wont take very long to produce 14nm Chips as the technology is already matured in China with a number of FABs producing it or planning to start production.

Huawei being able to produce 7nm and even 5nm Chips will allow it to revive Hisilicon and get back into the Mobile Phone business. Hisilicon should start designing its new Chips using RISC-V Architecture.
 
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WTAN said:
Yup....14nm or even 28nm is sufficient for 5G Base Stations.

Huawei wont take very long to produce 14nm Chips as the technology is already matured in China with a number of FABs producing it or planning to start production.

Huawei being able to produce 7nm and even 5nm Chips will allow it to revive Hisilicon and get back into the Mobile Phone business. Hisilicon should start designing its new Chips using RISC-V Architecture.
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And we will come full circle. The US sanctions intended to slow China down will have help China patch up one of its last weaknesses. Another thing in our favor is that Moore's law is close to being dead if not dead already. 5nm is probably one of the last mainstream nodes. Overheating, quantum tunneling, and increasing cost of production means that better chip design will drive future performance increases, not shrinking gate length.

China needs a leapfrog assassins mace, like carbon nano tubes or quantum computing to truly leap into the lead. This is a race we cannot lose. it's like the cold War space race.
 
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Yangtze Memory launches Xtacking Eco-Alliance to drive more China-made SSD products
2020-08-20 20:26:56 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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Yangtze Memory launches Xtacking Eco-Alliance to drive more China-made SSD products-cnTechPost

Yangtze Memory Technologies, China's top memory chipmaker under the umbrella of Tsinghua Unigroup,
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the establishment of the Xtacking Eco-Alliance today at the Xtacking Partners Eco-Conference in Wuhan, China.

The alliance aims to establish a partner-based storage product and technology alliance with the Xtacking brand and Yangtze Memory NAND as the carrier to promote the development of China's storage industry.


Through the Xtacking Eco-Alliance, Yangtze Memory will work with its eco-partners to promote a wide range of storage products and solutions to the market," said Gong Yi, senior vice president of Yangtze Memory.
Chinese chipmaker Goke Microelectronics announced that it has joined the Xtacking Eco-Alliance and is one of the first companies to be named a Diamond Level Eco-Partner.
Goke showcased several solid-state drive (SSD) products with Yangtze Memory 3D NAND flash memory chips in 2.5-inch, M.2 and mSATA chips up to 1,024GB.
 
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WTAN said:
Yup....14nm or even 28nm is sufficient for 5G Base Stations.

Huawei wont take very long to produce 14nm Chips as the technology is already matured in China with a number of FABs producing it or planning to start production.

Huawei being able to produce 7nm and even 5nm Chips will allow it to revive Hisilicon and get back into the Mobile Phone business. Hisilicon should start designing its new Chips using RISC-V Architecture.
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Hi WTAN,

What happen to Hisilicon, I heard that they had a recruitment expansion this year?
 
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I personally think it would be hilarious if Trump lost and in 2021, Biden comes into office for just months still struggling to remember where things used to be before Chinese lithographs and 14nm/7nm chips enter production and Trump tweets:

"When I was the president, China didn't have these technologies and we were killing them with sanctions. Sleepy Joe comes in just a few months and they've got everything and they're back to raping our proud, struggling American tech industries. Sleepy Joe ruined America and handed China the win. Sad. I, your favorite president, is obviously the better president and should have won. Election do-over?"

As funny as that would be, I still don't want that cus I want Trump to win and continue driving America into the world's biggest misfit.
 
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REFILE-In U.S.-China tech war, investors bet on China's localisation push

SHANGHAI, Aug 20 (Reuters) - As the U.S.-China "tech war" widens, investors are betting on China's efforts to replace U.S. technologies with indigenous applications to run networks in the state sector.

An index tracking Chinese IT stocks has jumped nearly 30% this year, doubling blue-chip gains. "Any segment that faces decoupling risks represents big investment opportunities."

Under U.S. pressure, Chinese vendors are poised to gain local market share, said Jie Lu, Robeco's China research head.

Dongxing Securities predicted that a retooling would create a 1 trillion yuan ($144.46 billion) opportunity over the next three years for local vendors.

Local governments are rushing to form industry federations to promote the use of Huawei's Kunpeng processing technologies.

Last week, China Unicom's Wuchang subsidiary struck a partnership with Huanghe Technology, which makes servers and PCs using Kunpeng technologies. In May, IT distributer Digital China said it was building plants to make PCs and servers using Kunpeng CPUs.

Also in May, China Telecom said it would procure up to 56,314 servers in 2020, one-fifth of them using Kunpeng and Hygon Dhyana chips, which rival U.S. brands Intel and AMD in a move seen as a gesture of Beijing's localisation push.

"China must promote domestic replacement to avoid being strangled, even as its current technology lags by far," Zhang Chi, chairman of Xin Ding Capital said during an investor roadshow for Haigon Information Technology, maker of Hygon Dhyana chips.

Zhang expects Chinese government agencies to replace all computers using U.S. chips in the next five years, echoing views of many analysts.

National Software & Service, which makes operating systems that compete with Windows and middleware that aims to rival IBM and Oracle, expects revenue this year to jump 70% to 10 billion yuan.

Beijing Kingsoft Office Software this week posted a 143% jump in first-half profit and said China's need for information security is boosting sales.
 
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REFILE-In U.S.-China tech war, investors bet on China's localisation push

SHANGHAI, Aug 20 (Reuters) - As the U.S.-China "tech war" widens, investors are betting on China's efforts to replace U.S. technologies with indigenous applications to run networks in the state sector.

An index tracking Chinese IT stocks has jumped nearly 30% this year, doubling blue-chip gains. "Any segment that faces decoupling risks represents big investment opportunities."

Under U.S. pressure, Chinese vendors are poised to gain local market share, said Jie Lu, Robeco's China research head.

Dongxing Securities predicted that a retooling would create a 1 trillion yuan ($144.46 billion) opportunity over the next three years for local vendors.

Local governments are rushing to form industry federations to promote the use of Huawei's Kunpeng processing technologies.

Last week, China Unicom's Wuchang subsidiary struck a partnership with Huanghe Technology, which makes servers and PCs using Kunpeng technologies. In May, IT distributer Digital China said it was building plants to make PCs and servers using Kunpeng CPUs.

Also in May, China Telecom said it would procure up to 56,314 servers in 2020, one-fifth of them using Kunpeng and Hygon Dhyana chips, which rival U.S. brands Intel and AMD in a move seen as a gesture of Beijing's localisation push.

"China must promote domestic replacement to avoid being strangled, even as its current technology lags by far," Zhang Chi, chairman of Xin Ding Capital said during an investor roadshow for Haigon Information Technology, maker of Hygon Dhyana chips.

Zhang expects Chinese government agencies to replace all computers using U.S. chips in the next five years, echoing views of many analysts.

National Software & Service, which makes operating systems that compete with Windows and middleware that aims to rival IBM and Oracle, expects revenue this year to jump 70% to 10 billion yuan.

Beijing Kingsoft Office Software this week posted a 143% jump in first-half profit and said China's need for information security is boosting sales.
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Good. We also need to focus on leapfrog technology as well. Quantum computing, etc.
 
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SCMP is owned by Alibaba but Alibaba never did anything to make it less anti-China. Although not all SCMP reporters are anti-China. There are a few reporters that are neutral or pro-China. However, we shouldn't take SCMP seriously especially regarding military. I don't think they have ever gotten things right on military.
 
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KYli said:
SCMP is owned by Alibaba but Alibaba never did anything to make it less anti-China. Although not all SCMP reporters are anti-China. There are a few reporters that are neutral or pro-China. However, we shouldn't take SCMP seriously especially regarding military. I don't think they have ever gotten things right on military.
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I don't think we should ever take them seriously. They make some pretty stupid claims.
 
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