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free_6ix9ine

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The best way for China to retaliate against the American moves is to double down on areas that America is targeting. These are the areas that America fears most and wants to cripple, so those are the areas that China should put the most effort into building up. That will help neutralize the effects of the sanctions.

That's not the right attitude either. You need an offensive strategy as well. I don't agree with tit for tat bans, it doesn't accomplish all that much. Creativity is needed. China could learn a lot from Russia in this perspective. It's not always about frontal assault.
 

horse

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The best way for China to retaliate against the American moves is to double down on areas that America is targeting. These are the areas that America fears most and wants to cripple, so those are the areas that China should put the most effort into building up. That will help neutralize the effects of the sanctions.

Do not disagree, as that is the best way to win, which is to win.

On Monday this week, Shenzhen announces they have installed and have their stand alone 5G network and that is operational.

On Wednesday this week, General Motors tells the world that they will launch 5G connected cars in two years in China.

This was what the entire US government versus Huawei fight was all about. And this is the result.

Banning this or banning that on the part of China, did not facilitate this result. Being diligent, working hard and working smart, and have some strategic focus, that made it happen.


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KYli

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According to Trump Covid was released on purpose by China to retaliate for the trade war. A virus that has caused the US to suffer the largest economic meltdown since the great depression. Has that made Trump less emboldened to attack? No in fact it has emboldened him more. So what will banning Boeing do?

Banning Boeing is an option that doesn't affect China that much but could hurt the US. Does it matter what Trump believes. The issue is that there are no consequences from sanctioning Chinese companies. By retaliating, it might not stop Trump from enacting more sanctions but it does force people such as Mnuchin to advocate for restraint. Would Mnuchin able to stop Trump from doing more damage? Probably not. Would Mnuchin able to delay Trump from making some of his moves. Probably yes. That is all China needs.
 

KYli

Brigadier
Hi KYli,

From my own thinking, China is biding her time and will act decisively that will cause the Trump reelection, maybe after the OCT 1 national day, while trump show all its card in the table, she will be able to study it and make her move. China had its card to play , not using it is a also major deterrent factor.

The question is by not retaliating would that embolden Trump to enact more sanctions and in more frequency. I have no problem for not doing tit for tat or biding time. I just question the wisdom of waiting or biding time. Is this strategy effective or counter productive.
 

free_6ix9ine

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The question is by not retaliating would that embolden Trump to enact more sanctions and in more frequency. I have no problem for not doing tit for tat or biding time. I just question the wisdom of waiting or biding time. Is this strategy effective or counter productive.

I do as well. But until we have a better strategy there isn't much we can do.
 

muddie

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The question is by not retaliating would that embolden Trump to enact more sanctions and in more frequency. I have no problem for not doing tit for tat or biding time. I just question the wisdom of waiting or biding time. Is this strategy effective or counter productive.

The main risk I can see from retaliating as we come closer to elections is that any damaging Chinese retaliation may cause an unpredictable U.S. reaction, especially given the current state of the U.S. and shortsightedness of the Trump administration.

By escalating tensions right now, China might unintentionally cause the U.S. to further make reckless moves that harm all parties, including neutral countries. If Trump feels trapped and is on his way out, why would he not try to further escalate tensions with China especially if China retaliates giving him a semi-valid reason to do so?

The Trump Administration is clearly not logical and rationale as of this moment and you cannot engage in any negotiations with an irrational party. IMO China is waiting to see election results before making a move.
 

horse

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The main risk I can see from retaliating as we come closer to elections is that any damaging Chinese retaliation may cause an unpredictable U.S. reaction, especially given the current state of the U.S. and shortsightedness of the Trump administration.

By escalating tensions right now, China might unintentionally cause the U.S. to further make reckless moves that harm all parties, including neutral countries. If Trump feels trapped and is on his way out, why would he not try to further escalate tensions with China especially if China retaliates giving him a semi-valid reason to do so?

The Trump Administration is clearly not logical and rationale as of this moment and you cannot engage in any negotiations with an irrational party. IMO China is waiting to see election results before making a move.

1. You analyzed it well, however if I was CCP, I would retaliate immediately, and then up the ante. That Iran China deal, that was the CCP telling Trump et al that they intend to be the new main player in that area of the world.

2. After four years, President Trump and the minions around him have proven themselves to be inept. It is just like any other game, like hockey or football. The team with the stupid players or weaker players, the longer they play the game, the more games they will lose.

Let's face two basic facts. After four years of Trump, China has strengthen its leading 5G position. After four years of Trump, China has strengthen its position in the Middle East via Iran. After four years of Trump, China will be tied closer to ASEAN than before. After four years of Trump, and a pandemic, the US economy looks unstable, unlike the Chinese economy.

Yet, all we hear from the media is how the Americans are gonna contain China! After four years of Trump that is all we hear and are going to hear. It is like what Orwell wrote, a foot stamping on a human face, forever! :p

We can insert one's preferred profanity at this moment, here, hew haw!

:D
 
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