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KYli

Brigadier
Nope, if China banned Boeing, and Trump was afraid of joblosses, he would just get Powell to print a trillion dollars to buy boeing planes for the military or something. Like how he bought off the farmers by giving them corporate welfare.

Besides, if you ban boeing or Apple it sends a bad message and will deter future foreign investment. Also, your making it seem like Trump is actually rational or is mentally well or can even think one day ahead.

The only thing that can be done is make progress on chip fabrication.

Sanctions on Comac could be a problem, but they don't even have a product yet, so that's more like a speed bump. We will have to cross that bridge when we get there.

Financial sanctions such as cutting off China from US dollar could happen, but that would also spell the end or the USD as well. So it's not a huge risk right now. Mnuchin knows this and this is probably the only red line that cannot be crossed.

HOWEVER, it is still absolutely imperative that China gets its act together and reduce reliance on the USD for exports. New technology like DCEP is a start, but the financial system needs an overhaul and must be more accessible to foreigners without endangering financial stability.

If Trump wanted to waste billions and billions more money to save Boeing, then it is his problem. After Huawei, ZTE, TikTok, and many other Chinese companies got banned, I don't see it as a problem. If corporate Americans want to cry unfair then they should start with Trump.

Sanctioning Comac doesn't matter. China should immediately retaliate and sanction Boeing. Nothing to loss here as Boeing doesn't even provide much of jobs in China.
 

galvatron

Junior Member
Registered Member
People advocating retaliation has no understanding of the geopolitical dynamics of what is going on. First of all, Trump only cares about one thing which is getting reelected, he doesn't care about how GM or Boeing is doing, he doesn't care about Apple, he doesnt dare about anyone or anything besides his own election. Attacking China in his mind is good for his reelection, and hawks like Pompeo are happy to push for more attacks.

Even if you ban GM or Boeing. that will do absolutely nothing. It's not like GM or Boeing has any pull to change Trump's mind.

There is good reason not to retaliate because China has only one allie left in the US and it's companies who do business in China. And after Trump is gone, China is relying on these companies to lobby the new administration to ease sanctions.
There is no need for total ban on GM or Boeing. Just shift some orders from Boeing to Airbus would send the message. Instead a ban on all Trump related businesses in China would be needed.
 

free_6ix9ine

Junior Member
Registered Member
If Trump wanted to waste billions and billions more money to save Boeing, then it is his problem. After Huawei, ZTE, TikTok, and many other Chinese companies got banned, I don't see it as a problem. If corporate Americans want to cry unfair then they should start with Trump.

Sanctioning Comac doesn't matter. China should immediately retaliate and sanction Boeing. Nothing to loss here as Boeing doesn't even provide much of jobs in China.

Strategy is about playing the cards your dealt well. It's about thinking one step ahead and attacking when you have the advantage. Playing the long game.
 

free_6ix9ine

Junior Member
Registered Member
Deterrence is also the long game. Letting them picking you off one by one in the name of being smart is also foolish. Retaliation is the best deterrence. Just don't do tit for tat and time your moves right.

Personally I think tit for tat bans lack creativity. China needs to seize the initiative in some other way. Think outside the box here.
 

KYli

Brigadier
Personally I think tit for tat bans lack creativity. China needs to seize the initiative in some other way. Think outside the box here.

It is easy said than done. For the last 18 months, the national security law is the only great move by China to counter American offensive. China has been very restraint in countering other American aggressions such as recent visit to Taiwan. Let us not forget that more sanctions are coming. If China failed to response, then it would only embolden Trump to make more moves.
 

ansy1968

Brigadier
Registered Member
It is easy said than done. For the last 18 months, the national security law is the only great move by China to counter American offensive. China has been very restraint in countering other American aggressions such as recent visit to Taiwan. Let us not forget that more sanctions are coming. If China failed to response, then it would only embolden Trump to make more moves.
Hi KYli,

From my own thinking, China is biding her time and will act decisively that will cause the Trump reelection, maybe after the OCT 1 national day, while trump show all its card in the table, she will be able to study it and make her move. China had its card to play , not using it is a also major deterrent factor.
 

free_6ix9ine

Junior Member
Registered Member
It is easy said than done. For the last 18 months, the national security law is the only great move by China to counter American offensive. China has been very restraint in countering other American aggressions such as recent visit to Taiwan. Let us not forget that more sanctions are coming. If China failed to response, then it would only embolden Trump to make more moves.

According to Trump Covid was released on purpose by China to retaliate for the trade war. A virus that has caused the US to suffer the largest economic meltdown since the great depression. Has that made Trump less emboldened to attack? No in fact it has emboldened him more. So what will banning Boeing do?
 

gadgetcool5

Senior Member
Registered Member
The best way for China to retaliate against the American moves is to double down on areas that America is targeting. These are the areas that America fears most and wants to cripple, so those are the areas that China should put the most effort into building up. That will help neutralize the effects of the sanctions.
 
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