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TSMC lead for me is insurmountable, its decision on 2nm is very interesting, at least different from Samsung and plan SMIC 3nm.
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TSMC lead for me is insurmountable, its decision on 2nm is very interesting, at least different from Samsung and plan SMIC 3nm.
Because the US is in dilemma.
Option 1 has 2 paths :
1. China has to be convinced or coerced into giving the rights to develop technology on their own right. She has to continue adopting Western tech protocols, standards instead of attempting to outperform.
2. If China cannot be convinced/pressures into option A, then geopolitical, trade and tech isolation will path the way to ensure China fails in attempting to chart her own destiny.
Note that both Path 1 and 2 of Option 1 has some unspoken assumptions taken for granted under the Western-led world order :
1. That the Chinese have comparatively lesser capability to innovate compared to the West. Ceteris paribus. Thus containment will end in China's eventual destruction whilst ensuring continued US dominance.
2. The West has moral superiority and thus should have the speaking rights to dictate the development direction of non-western nations.
But then there is also Option 2:
1. China refuses to live with the assumptions which underpin Option 1, and choose to chart the course of their own destiny.
Concurrent narratives and thinktanks seem to superficially depict the US being stuck between the paths in Option 1, but in reality, US' dilemma is a step backward; that she is grappling to even remotely accept the possibility of Option 2. Huawei shocked the US elites by hinting the long-held assumptions underpinning the Western-led world order might be wrong after all.
A Congress report last year also seems to be having issue with China's attempt to chart their own path development in technology.( I mean what is wrong with that ? Free and Open world ? Free Market ?) But the US seems to have a problem with that. Why does US always demand servitude, packaging in languages like "compliance with universal values".
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TSMC is first doing 3nm in 2022, and then moving onto 2nm in 2024 (or that's the plan)
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pardon meant for economic thread.
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Well said. Harmony OS isn't some new reactionary development. It's been worked on for ages, and it certainly isn't an Android alternative, it is designed to be comprehensively applicable and planned to be applied in building towards an expanding "internet of things", embedded in every facet of a future society, as dystopian as western imaginations want to call it. Adaptation and change is necessary. Mistakes can be corrected once identified.If Harmony OS takes off, Huawei becomes more than just an Ericsson/Nokia company that also makes smartphones. It will move more into the Apple-Microsoft space. Harmony OS allows a software integration with Huawei hardware that isn't possible with Android, you're talking about iOS meets iPhone levels of software-hardware integration. At the same time, Harmony OS moving into desktop space means its moving into the MacOS and Microsoft space.
The real question is whether the Chinese government would allow an in country monopoly of Harmony OS by Huawei alone, or other Chinese companies can build devices with Harmony OS, opening up the platform. I would think that if Harmony OS has to take off, it would need other makers like Lenovo to make laptops, the BBK to make their smartphones. This will raise Huawei to the level of Google-Microsoft that acts as the platform caretaker.
If a domestic Chinese OS would rise and conquer China, spread to countries in its influence sphere, it would divide the IT and the internet world between China-Harmony ecosystem vs. Apple-Microsoft-Google. Long term consequence is that Harmony OS becomes a technological or platform Great Wall that will impede the growth of US tech giants, while creating a safe haven for a Chinese or Pan Asian centric ecosystem to grow, especially when you have 1.4 billion people in China alone.
Japan and South Korea has both tried to create domestic platforms. Go back to the history books and see what NEC tried to do with PCs, and what Samsung tried to do with mobiles later, but they lack a huge enough domestic market to pull it off on a sustained basis (NEC managed to maintain their PC98 platform for many years, and Japanese computer makers did so with DOS/V.) Samsung Tizen didn't stand a chance except on SmartTVs and smartwatches, where ironically, Samsung Gear is doing better than any Android smartwatch. Japan and South Korea also lacks the strong domestic software industry the US has. But the story will be different with China, which has both a huge domestic market coupled with a strong domestic software industry.
Hi Tam
Very informative, Initially I think they will, China need a national champion to compete, but they will allow some sort of competition to thrive, just an example is Alibaba vs Tencent.
Regarding Huawei, I admire the vision, the corporation culture and The fighting spirit , I sincerely hope it give inspiration to us Chinese as a shinning symbol of national rejuvenation.
The asshats on the other side are working tirelessly day and night to do anything and everything to stop China's rejuvenation. I hope CCP's seniors like Xi and his future replacements have a grudge book. They need to hunt them down like Mossad did with escaped Nazis. This may sow some fear in the evil pricks. Literally nothing is too cruel for these demons. We shouldn't forget that Google, Microsoft, and Apple are three of the original network spies and disruptors. Proof of their crimes is nothing, while speculation and lies about Huawei somehow count as gospel.
Hi ougoah
HEHEHE, careful bro, I feel your pain. But this adversity for me is a good thing, like you it awaken my Chineseness in me.
Hi ougoah
HEHEHE, careful bro, I feel your pain. But this adversity for me is a good thing, like you it awaken my Chineseness in me.
The only "good" thing that came from all this is effectively solidifying pro CCP sentiments within mainland China further. Yeah it's not all mainland Chinese people at all but at least it made indifferent and naive Chinese realise, especially those who can and often do read English media. CCP propaganda within China is setting the narrative and it's being welcomed and accepted by Chinese because it is verified by their own foreign experiences and online experiences. International students know the animosity too and have had their eyes opened. Even if most aren't directly aware, the peripherals are enough.
It's so aggressive and obvious now that even objective people are beginning to see how ridiculously anti-China the angloworld is becoming under the US led campaign. China is their proposed new USSR and Iran/ North Korea "bad guy". Objective and neutral people outside of the anglosphere and India are increasingly aware and tired of the disruptions and violence caused by the anglo/Zio narrative of "this is the bad guy you should all beat down!". Plus China's size basically guarantees itself victory as long as the political narrative stays firm. This is exactly where they are attacking. All the carrier battle groups and military posturing is distraction and bullshit until they invent so many new superweapons they can actually take out China using kinetic means. Until then, they will keep up the annoying #ChinaIsBadmmmkay??"