News on China's scientific and technological development.

ougoah said:

The only "good" thing that came from all this is effectively solidifying pro CCP sentiments within mainland China further. Yeah it's not all mainland Chinese people at all but at least it made indifferent and naive Chinese realise, especially those who can and often do read English media. CCP propaganda within China is setting the narrative and it's being welcomed and accepted by Chinese because it is verified by their own foreign experiences and online experiences. International students know the animosity too and have had their eyes opened. Even if most aren't directly aware, the peripherals are enough.

It's so aggressive and obvious now that even objective people are beginning to see how ridiculously anti-China the angloworld is becoming under the US led campaign. China is their proposed new USSR and Iran/ North Korea "bad guy". Objective and neutral people outside of the anglosphere and India are increasingly aware and tired of the disruptions and violence caused by the anglo/Zio narrative of "this is the bad guy you should all beat down!". Plus China's size basically guarantees itself victory as long as the political narrative stays firm. This is exactly where they are attacking. All the carrier battle groups and military posturing is distraction and bullshit until they invent so many new superweapons they can actually take out China using kinetic means. Until then, they will keep up the annoying #ChinaIsBadmmmkay??"

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Hi ougoah

Yes , its so obvious that you can see their desperation. Except for Indians, every people can see thru the malice reporting, sometimes the news is so ridiculous bias that it help China cause rather than harming it. sorry for deviating from the thread.

From cnTechPost

China Telecom, State Grid, Huawei build China's largest 5G smart grid
2020-07-11 14:33:06 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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China Telecom today announced the delivery and commissioning of the first phase of the Qingdao 5G Smart Grid Project, jointly developed with State Grid and Huawei. It marks the completion of China's largest 5G smart grid.

China Telecom said it will continue to work with its partners to promote other application scenarios to better serve the 5G smart grid. Social production and people's lives.

Qingdao 5G smart grid project adopts end-to-end 5G SA network construction and introduces 5G fully automatic multi-dimensional dynamic slicing solution.
Combined with 5G MEC's ubiquitous connectivity and ultra-performance heterogeneous computing power, it provides faster, finer, and more efficient slicing for grid applications. More accurate differentiation and deterministic network capabilities.
It enables new applications such as intelligent distributed power distribution based on 5G SA slicing, and 5G base station peaking and valley power supply. Staff monitoring transmission lines and distribution facilities through 5G+4K Ultra HD cameras on power towers can detect The potential for faults can save up to 80% of the manpower and resources required for on-site inspections.


With 5G's ultra-low latency and high reliability, it can also quickly locate, isolate and restore grid line faults, reducing power outage time from minutes to seconds or even milliseconds.
In August 2019, China Telecom Qingdao Branch, State Grid Qingdao Power Supply Company and Huawei to form a joint 5G application Innovation Lab to jointly promote the construction of 5G in smart grid and energy internet systems.

localizer said:

@ansy1968 @B.I.B.

Hehe my family owns a BYD, it's pretty modern. Though people say BYD not known for reliability.

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BYD is a leader in all kinds of batteries, including batteries for electric vehicles.

Tam said:

Huawei already reinvented the wheel. Harmony OS is not Linux. It has its own proprietary micro kernel architecture. In comparison, Linux would already be an old legacy OS based on an ever expanding monolithic kernel. Let's just say that microkernel OS has fundamental advantages especially with regards to OS maintenance, security and latency, which can be of great benefit when it comes to scaling (server, cloud, supercomputing) and IOT.

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Is it accurate to say that Apple's Mac OS, IOS and Android, are all based on some form of hybrid XNU or Linux?

Only in China, where the govt is a willing partner in promoting new tech, I mean a whole city bloc is a test zone for autonomous driving.

From cnTechPost

Shanghai opens first downtown area autonomous driving test zone
2020-07-11 19:20:04 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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Shanghai's first open test road for autonomous driving in the central city is unveiled, with a planned mileage of 30.6 km, involving 10 roads in the Jinqiao area.

Local officials say the 10 roads were chosen because the area contains many types of landmarks such as schools, shopping malls, and companies. It provides application scenarios with different levels of risk for automated driving tests.

Jinqiao area is building Shanghai's first 5G full coverage, providing complete production and research conditions of the 5G industry ecological park.
"With the full coverage of 5G, information is transmitted by the HD cameras, LIDAR, millimeter wave radar and other integrated sensing devices to the driverless vehicle in real time, allowing the driverless vehicle to see through and make decisions when there is obstruction around it," Huang Gang, deputy general manager of China Mobile Shanghai, said.
Shanghai has previously opened up three suburban areas for automated driving tests, including Jiading for passenger car testing, Lingang for commercial vehicle testing, and Fengxian for basement test scenarios.

localizer said:

@ansy1968 @B.I.B.

Hehe my family owns a BYD, it's pretty modern. Though people say BYD not known for reliability.



But problem with Linux is app environment. China needs an domestic x86 production chain because all the important software are x86.

Unless Apple teaches the world how to get around that with their new ARM macbooks next year.

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China needs an domestic x86 production chain because all the important software are x86.

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China would then be tied to the requirement to license x86. It's better to use a CPU architecture that has no strings attached.

The fact of the matter is that there's no reason to believe that software that is designed to run on x86 can't also be designed to run just as well on other platforms, whether it's based on MIPS or ARM.

The only obstacle to it is not that of hardware architecture but is that of licensing requirements.

Microsoft must have seen enough plus points and benefits to itself to allow some of its popular Windows apps to run on the Mac.

I doubt Microsoft would allow any of her software to run on Harmony OS as this would compete directly to its Windows O/S.

So it all comes down to China having to develop its own software ecosystem.

Quickie said:

China would then be tied to the requirement to license x86. It's better to use a CPU architecture that has no strings attached.

The fact of the matter is that there's no reason to believe that software that is designed to run on x86 can't also be designed to run just as well on other platforms, whether it's based on MIPS or ARM.

The only obstacle to it is not that of hardware architecture but is that of licensing requirements.

Microsoft must have seen enough plus points and benefits to itself to allow some of its popular Windows apps to run on the Mac.

I doubt Microsoft would allow any of her software to run on Harmony OS as this would compete directly to its Windows O/S.

So it all comes down to China having to develop its own software ecosystem.

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i am a developer ! and i want to join to building China software ecosystem !

Peter2018 said:

BYD is a leader in all kinds of batteries, including batteries for electric vehicles.

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I would prefer CATL, too bad I can't buy the stock since it is not available on HK Connect.

styx said:

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seems like chinese are moving fast in semiconductor indipendence

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The article that you linked writes:


"Chinese research institutes need to work with companies to translate theories into products. But in terms of profits, making a chip-production machine could cost billions of yuan and it will take years to recover the investment. Most Chinese companies don't see it as a good deal," Xiang explained.

To this I say that, while most Chinese companies don't see it as a good deal and being companies they must at least be in black and their products be sufficiently marketable and saleable, the Chinese government is or at least should be fully aware of the attempts and desire of the United States to strangle China technologically and economically, and especially ensure that it remains dependent on the West and US allies for any type of high end high tech good that US alliance countries produce well, which China cannot. Then furthermore, selectively permit sales of what the US permits or desires to China, and on a whim then place sanctions against China.

It may not be in the financial wherewithal for Chinese companies to embark on very expensive and market risky ventures even if they are confident of and do indeed possess the capabilities to make technological breakthroughs in producing EUV lithography machines of quality comparable to ASML. But it is definitely within the wherewithal of the Chinese state financially to render assistance to the most competent Chinese entities private and public to make high tech breakthroughs.

Weaasel said:

The article that you linked writes:


"Chinese research institutes need to work with companies to translate theories into products. But in terms of profits, making a chip-production machine could cost billions of yuan and it will take years to recover the investment. Most Chinese companies don't see it as a good deal," Xiang explained.

To this I say that, while most Chinese companies don't see it as a good deal and being companies they must at least be in black and their products be sufficiently marketable and saleable, the Chinese government is or at least should be fully aware of the attempts and desire of the United States to strangle China technologically and economically, and especially ensure that it remains dependent on the West and US allies for any type of high end high tech good that US alliance countries produce well, which China cannot. Then furthermore, selectively permit sales of what the US permits or desires to China, and on a whim then place sanctions against China.

It may not be in the financial wherewithal for Chinese companies to embark on very expensive and market risky ventures even if they are confident of and do indeed possess the capabilities to make technological breakthroughs in producing EUV lithography machines of quality comparable to ASML. But it is definitely within the wherewithal of the Chinese state financially to render assistance to the most competent Chinese entities private and public to make high tech breakthroughs.

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The form of lithography in that article is called maskless lithography, and has trouble getting commercial funding because it’s not as scalable, and thus not market competitive, as masked lithography methods.