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horse

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It is still can be useful but it is not "AI taking over jobs" level as clueless media and laymen are trying to present.

Yeah, that is what I think. Right now, this chat-bot is all bs.

This is plainly evident, from old school thinking. Just one sentence blows it apart.

The map is not the territory.

That's it.

This chat-bot replacing customer service or coders, completely unrealistic.

Maybe in the future, but not now. Probably need far more powerful computers lol.

What is a map? We looking at a map because we want to get from point A to point B, so a map is like instructions. Isn't chat-bot suppose to give answers or instructions to questions, such as how to get from point A to point B?

If the map is not the territory, then how can chat-bot answers be the territory?

There are real limitations to a map.

There should be real limitations to chat-bot too, if it only provides information, but have no context of the surroundings of how that information can be used.
 

supercat

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Hopefully, that's the case.
Whatever the motivations behind the law, China’s new regulatory framework on generative AI has put it in an enviable position to harness the propulsive energy of the field. Indeed, many Chinese tech companies are positioning themselves to race down the path defined by the CCP and surpass ChatGPT’s ability to electrify the public imagination – so much so that Ma gives the sector about six months before it produces something as entrancing and potentially lucrative.

Chinese tech companies have done it before, adds Ma. “You can kind of see it with Tesla,” she says, the first electric vehicle manufacturer to hit the international mainstream. It took only a few years, though, for a plethora of Chinese car companies to begin mass production of EVs and dominate the
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, too. It’ll be less of an engineering challenge to build generative AI on a par with ChatGPT, says Sheehan. If anything, China’s AI sector is in a better position to catch up with its US counterparts than its EV sector ever was, having already achieved something similar with LLMs. “Google came out with BERT,” recalls Sheehan, before “Baidu came out with
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A less invasive way to treat nasopharyngeal cancer:

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Beijing's number of major AI firms exceeds 1,000​


Xinhua | Updated: 2023-02-14 10:15


BEIJING -- Beijing had 1,048 major artificial intelligence companies as of October 2022, accounting for 29 percent of the national total, according to a report on the capital's AI development released Monday.

The report, released by the municipal bureau of economy and information, noted that Beijing boasts the top industrial agglomeration capacity in China and that it has a well-developed AI industry chain.

The city has more than 40,000 professionals in core AI technologies and has produced the most published papers on AI in the country, the report said.

The number of smart factories and digitalized workshops in Beijing reached 36 and 47, respectively, in 2022.

In 2023, Beijing will guide enterprises, research institutes, open-source communities, and others to collaborate for the achievement of core AI technology innovation. It will also support top firms in creating ChatGPT-style large models to strive for new breakthroughs in the development of the AI industry, according to the report.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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It is still can be useful but it is not "AI taking over jobs" level as clueless media and laymen are trying to present.
If these people could think through a single implication of their proposition, they would understand how nonsensical what they're saying is. If ChatGPT or any other AI could make software engineers worthless, then they've just made software itself worthless. If software is worthless, then Google, Microsoft, Facebook, and every other software company is worthless. How much is Microsoft worth if anybody with a terminal can type "write an OS like Windows" and distribute it for a few pennies?

More importantly, writing code is a small part of software engineering. If an AI could do the other - much larger and much more difficult - part of the work, it can do any job that presently requires human cognition (I must stress that journalism is not such a job). If it can replace software engineers, it can replace every other type of engineer, doctors, scientists, lawyers, etc.

Now, jobs that don't require much cognition like spamming clickbait could be in jeopardy, but that's an exception like "record store clerk" was an exception when digital distribution of music became a thing.

To sum it up, these technologies fall into one of only two buckets: 1) A productivity-enhancing tool like every other that came before it since fire and the wheel. 2) The Singularity. Right now bucket number 2 is empty and nothing on the horizon indicates that that's going to change.
 

Biscuits

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BAAI's Wudao - introduced a new training method for large scale NLP models, which was also the main point behind GPT, it is larger than GPT-3 btw; Baidu's ERNiE-ViLG - new training regimen and bidirectiobal generator, which allowed it to greatly surpass DALL-E in zero-shot learning in terms of FID. So yeah, the issue is not that Chinese companies don't come up with novelties, you just don't hear about them much from the English-language media. Overall, true - Chinese companies need to catch up in producing not just production-ready models.
It has to do with Chinese regulations and societal acceptance. For that reason, some technologies cant be easily commercialized in China and remain in the use for the research community only, when in America, the government can just say whatever and whatever they say goes.

Does that mean China should totally deregulate and put all the data into the hands of companies just for the sake of creating hype? No. But China should have committees that look more into how society can be played more "hard and fast" with, to ensure that it will be able to commercialize just as quickly as America.

In the interest of national security and prosperity, the manipulation or even control of civilians must be accepted, to some degree.

As there is a race between the west and the east, conservative feelings and sensibility cannot be allowed to lead to society slowing to pick those people up. For example in the matter of covid, China refused to make a vaccine mandate and insisted on subsidising a limit run only, which meant that the companies did not make a large profit and could not dominate the vaccine rollout globally, despite offering the best choice of vaccine. This is because 1. The regulations forbid overpriced medicines 2. The government dares not inflict the "tyranny" of vaccine mandates.

I'm not saying that China should become a regime where the animals that drink and live in polluted water are dying, yet the people still mindlessly drink from the rivers because the leaders says it is safe. But it should at a minimum be able to enforce vaccine mandates, be able to pull into question the need of overly harsh regulations and so on.
 

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New drone at home in air and water​


By ZHOU WENTING in Shanghai | CHINA DAILY | Updated: 2023-02-18 07:32

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The TJ-FlyingFish diving drone. [Photo/China Daily]
Chinese researchers have developed a diving drone that can switch between flying and swimming, which will play a better role in cross-domain detection, remote sensing, disaster rescue and other scenarios.

The device is able to both fly as a standard quadcopter and explore underwater environments like a submersible. Researchers said it can be used for aerial and aquatic surveys, resource exploration, and search and rescue tasks.

A team of scientists from Shanghai Research Institute for Intelligent Autonomous Systems affiliated with Tongji University and another from the Unmanned Systems Research Group at the Chinese University of Hong Kong jointly developed the device, TJ-FlyingFish, which is currently in a functional prototype stage.

The device, which weighs 1.63 kilograms and is 38 centimeters wide, can hover for six minutes in the air or operate underwater for 40 minutes per battery-charge. It can work underwater at a speed of two meters per second and descend to a depth of up to three meters.

Researchers said autonomous systems being able to function across different domains with improved mobility and flexibility are the trend for research and development.

They said the device, the first of its kind in news reports worldwide, realizes the exchange and integration of data obtained in the air and from underwater, and will allow work in a range of possible applications to proceed with better efficiency and results.

The devices could be either used alone in operations or together with other equipment and act as messengers in a cross-domain collaborative system, realizing information transfer and interaction between cross-domain nodes, according to the researchers from the institute at Tongji University.

A number of technical challenges have been overcome to make the device a reality. Scientists said that when flying in the air and operating underwater, the device must adopt different postures and engage different systems to adapt to the properties of the environment.

TJ-FlyingFish looks similar to any other quadcopter. It consists of a central domed body and four arms, each with a propulsion unit at the end. Each propulsion unit incorporates a special dual-speed gearbox.

When the aircraft is in flight, all four of the units are facing upward and spinning their props. Once it lands on the water, the units rotate to face downward and spin at a lower speed, propelling the drone beneath the water's surface.

In order to move both vertically and horizontally after it is fully submerged, the drone adjusts the angle and thrust of each propulsion unit as required.

The device is also equipped with a trans-domain positioning and navigation system consisting of the Global Positioning System, an inertial measurement unit, a depth meter and a micro ultrasonic velometer, allowing it to be capable of completely automatic control and zero human intervention at any point of its amphibious operation.

Researchers said much interest has been shown by diverse industries in terms of possible applications of the device, which will be designed in different sizes and will be able to adapt to deep or shallow sea environments after further technical breakthroughs.
 
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