AssassinsMace
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It doesn't really matter because the US is scared for its future because of China.
News on China's scientific and technological development.
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Disagree. California & Texas both have more dynamic economies out of the 50 states and unless you think that Asian & Hispanic populations are superior in cognitive and behavioral predispositions and share a similar phenotype and culture to white people, then this isn't true.
Good thing I was advocating keeping the foreign-born population in the single digits.
Indian-Americans are 75% of US H1B holders and 20% of US Asian Americans so conservatively, we can assume that 30% of Asians in Silicon Valley are Indians. From here, we can thus interpolate the % Asian in each Silicon Valley County. Indian migration is valuable to the United States for technological development and that Indians in the 10% range is socially acceptable. Couldn't find the national origin breakdowns by Asian country and county on the Census website.
Santa Clara County: 39% Asian, 11.7% Indian
San Mateo County: 30.6% Asian, 9.2% Indian
San Francisco County: 36% Asian, 10.8% Indian
Alameda County: 32.3% Asian, 9.7% Indian
Contra Costa County: 18.3%, 5.5% Indian
Trump had a Republican trifecta between 2016-2018 and he still couldn't repeal the 1965 INA or substantially modify it. It's also not true.
It's not all about economics dummy. There are other aspects of society you know? Being demographically replaced by a people not your own is something people actually care about, regardless of how much it offends you.
California is experiencing the greatest White flight in all of Human history. It has the 2nd worst test scores in the US, 1% of LA county is homeless, crime rates worse than most 3rd world countries, etc.
White Americans can never really accept that Asian genes possess superior intellect over white genes, which is to be expected given Millenia of selecting for intellectuals
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This is definitely not true.
Congress never passed such a law. Chinese nationals can still work at US labs. It was a bill that died once facts came out.
Because incremental gains are important? You aren't going to arbitrarily sabotage 0.01% of GDP if there's no upside.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Yes ignore the fact that the US itself says they're in a technological cold war with China. No need to worry if China fails technologically because there are no foreigners in China's scientific and engineering ranks. I already know that's how you debate. Digression.
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Race is a bullshit concept and no group of people is inherently superior to any other group of people. Full stop.
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Whether Chinese nationals are banned from working in national labs is a discrete fact that is falsifiable. Facts matter, even if you disagree with the broader political environment.
This is projection. Anyway, my contention was that China's economy and technological development would benefit from greater immigration, which you haven't actually contested outside of various strawmans about the United States
AssassinsMace
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This doesn't change the fact that the US is says it's in a technological cold war with China and is alarmed meaning China not having foreign scientist and engineers working for them is irrelevant. That's why all the digression on your part.
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Yeah, if you notice, I mentioned keeping the foreign-born population at a single digit of the total population to manage social risk. Anyway, I'm glad you conceded the point that Indians are not inherently stupid. Racism in all forms should be condemned but the point is that immigration is good for the economy and good for technological development. It's also if done well, good for the native people since everyone benefits from an expanding economy. Even if you desire for your ethnic group to maintain it's incumbent power, which for China, isn't really contestable, you can still have immigration that is good for the economy
California has middle-of-the-pack SAT scores and crimes rates about in line with the US as a whole. There isn't white flight. There are white people leaving for economic, not social reasons and there is still substantial in-migration of white people to California. And fwiw, Texas is also majority-minority and is the polar opposite of California. Florida is also moving towards being majority-minority, go tell me about hwo the minorities of Florida & Texas are going to cause a rebellion or whatever.
AssassinsMace
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I'm reminded how back when Indians proclaimed they were a software power outsourcing for English language software. They taunted somehow China was hobbled because Indians weren't doing their programming. It's again irrelevant because Chinese software is in Chinese that Indians don't know. Plus Indians were just the cheapest translators between machine language and English not because they were great programmers because if they were, they would be ranking in yearly international programming contests and yet they don't. Again what they brag about is irrelevant in the end.