New Type98/99 MBT thread

Lion

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quality of Chinese gun tube is big question,lately,China ask Giat of france and rheinmetal of germany for technical assisstant.this come after accident test
firing of experimental 140mm tank gun.

This doesn't more or less will take away the fact. They can't do well for a 125mm smoothbore gun. Remember, its a 140mm calibre gun, new calibre. So its an unchartered water. Technical difficulities bound to be encountered.
 

maozedong

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1, the West for decades without a new tank development program, especially after the disintegration of the Soviet Union, we are able to catch up with others, a great factor is that someone else had stopped, M1, Leopard II even the latest variants are also not necessarily be able to The latest industrial level on behalf of the West.
2, type 99 As a new comer of the tank, in the full study the strengths and weaknesses of others after the tanks made a lot of targeted designs, which may also make 99 in the fight against the account for a large advantage.

one thing I forgot to mention that Zu Yuseng said in CCTV interview, that 99-type tanks equiped passive protection system, can be heavy missile defense, and it installed the active defense system, this proactive protection, using a computer calculation of the distance the enemy's artillery shells, when the enemy's artillery shells near the tank, its protective shell the launch of the initiative to go out , the error is less than one meter, in that within the scope of guarantee that attack the enemy. Moreover, this system is unmaned, just start switch, it will automatically search and track targets.
that's what he said, not my oppinion.
 
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tphuang

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some rumour on type 99A2
除了99A2之外,目前正在研制中的“智能坦克”是某方面向未来的杰作。就99A2而言,它的性能在当今世界也是数一数二的,德系1500马力涡轮增压四冲程12缸中冷式柴油机,液力机械综合传动装置,激光对抗装置,主动防御系统,55*125滑膛炮+特种合金穿甲弹(碳碳纤维弹托+XX弹芯),新型陶瓷复合装甲和双防反应装甲,二代热像仪和多模定位导航接口等等,国产主战坦克终于翻过了与豹2同台竞技的一页
claims that 99A2 is the best or 2nd best in the world, that it uses German based 1500 hp turbocharged four-stroke 12-cylinder cooling diesel engine, Integrated Hydro-mechanical transmission device, laser countermeasure device, active protection system, 55 * 125 mm gun + special alloy penetration rounds, New type of ceramic composite armor and dual anti-reactive armor, 2nd generation thermography and multi-mode navigational system.
 

challenge

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some rumour on type 99A2

claims that 99A2 is the best or 2nd best in the world, that it uses German based 1500 hp turbocharged four-stroke 12-cylinder cooling diesel engine, Integrated Hydro-mechanical transmission device, laser countermeasure device, active protection system, 55 * 125 mm gun + special alloy penetration rounds, New type of ceramic composite armor and dual anti-reactive armor, 2nd generation thermography and multi-mode navigational system.

you mean 2nd gen.thermal sight, but M-a1 SEP already use 3nd gen. thermal sight and 55 calibre long 125mm gun,but Chinese press and magazine claim that type-99 is armed with 50 calibre 125mm tank gun. (russian 2a46M-48 cal.)
 

RedMercury

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除了99a2之外,目前正在研制中的“智能坦克”是某方面向未来的杰作。

Besides 99A2, there is a "new intelligent tank" under development.

This is probably referring to the next gen 2-crew tank.

就99a2而言,它的性能在当今世 界也是数一数二的,

About the 99A2: its functionality is currently 1st or 2nd in the world.

德系1500马力涡轮增压四冲程12缸中冷式柴油机,液力机械综合传动装置,激光对抗装 置,主动防御系统,

German 1500 HP diesel, hydromechanical transmission, laser countermeasure equipment, active protection system

55*125滑膛炮+特种合金穿甲弹(碳碳纤维弹托+xx弹芯),

125mm 55 caliber gun with special alloy armor piercing round (carbon fiber sabot + xx core)

新型陶瓷复合装甲和双 防反应装甲,二代热像仪和多模定位导航接口等等,

new ceramic composite armor, anti-chemical and anti-kinetic reactive armor, 2nd generation thermal optics, multimode navigation (system) connectors, etc

国产主战坦克终于翻过了与豹2同台竞技的一页

Chinese made tanks have finally turned the page on being at the same league as the Leopard 2.
 

RedMercury

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Somewhat OT, but some references for (auto)loaders:
T-64, T-80
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T-72, T-90
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M-1
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Leopard-2
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I suppose the human loaders shown in the videos must be pretty inept. The fastest I clocked with a stopwatch was 5.5 sec.
 

A.Man

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A Full Motorized PLA Division Moved 2000 km In 5 days

From Northwest Lanzhou MR to Northeast Shenyang MR performing a war game against a mechanized brigade.

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williamhou

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chief engineer of type 99 tank Zu Yusheng interview in CCTV.
type 99 is China only one issued by the State Council and Central Military Commission, direct the mission to develop key projects of the Army equipment.
type 99 in 1984 to formalize the project, when China's second-generation tank design has not yet finalized, while the foreign MI / Leopard II/T72/T80 have had stereotypes and deploy operation.Ahead of the second generation than that of China, in terms of the technology itself, when the Chinese in the design level, the original parts, big parts, the technical reserve, laboratory testing capacity, etc., and in foreign countries, the gap between several tens years.
It was in this circumstances, Zhu Yusheng been repeatedly invited to serve as chief engineer of the project development of 99 tanks.Zhu Yusheng has been a long time serving in the military academies, he through academic channels of communication, a comprehensive understanding of the foreign army's equipment development, in determining the 99 tanks The design idea, it draws extensively on foreign tanks and advanced technology.
His tank design, using high priority to the idea of an integrated system, if every - parts in comparison with foreign countries, many parts are not as foreign countries, he and his design team, for each tank system organization, use of advanced technology sooner than the opponent , In the tank firepower, and strive to technology, ahead of the competition.
They designed a system to suppress and observation, it would be installed in the sight inside, with the fire and move, the enemy can not see themselves, and they can see the enemy, so they can attack the enemy, while the enemy can not attack themselves.
type 99 tank profile is lower and flat,400mm lower than leopard II.200mm lower than M1,This form of high survival rates, reduce the opportunity for the other shells hit, but this design is not easy, to consider how to place components,the US wants M1 gets lower but its can't, becaurse its engine and transmission is higher.
Zu Yusheng lets tank body shape on the use of a modular guitar Citrus medica, many replacement parts can be demolished, not only lose weight, but also left room for upgrading.
Because of restrictions by the level of engine technology, mobility has become a relatively weak link in 99 tank, Zu Yusheng had other ways to make up the shortcomings in this regard.




Mao, if the things you posted is genuine interview record, it is quite interesting.

The chief engineer mentioned some interesting points:
1. With added armour, the Type 99 is indestructible by heavy missiles (anti-tank missiles?), so other missiles could not harm Type 99 either

2. The Type 99 has an active protection system, the computer automatically calculates and launch a projectile to shot down incoming projectile, the system is unmaned and at the time it was designed not other country in the world has such technology

3. The Type 99 has an optical device that could blind enemy tank's aiming system, so only the Type 99 could see the enemy

4. Any previous tank in China is unable to aim at moving targets due to limits on their fire control systems, it can only depend on the experience of its crew


My understanding of his points is that if what he said is true, the Type 99 can not be harmed and is invincible. Also any other Chinese tank rather than the Type 99 is unable to attack any modern MBT unless it has highly experienced crew ;)
 
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