TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Have proof of that Val? I would love to see a link.
New Type98/99 MBT thread
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99KM tank:
Total weight: 75 tons
Power: 2100 hp engine
Speed: 80 km / h
Maximum stroke: 869 km
Main weapon: 155 mm gun (capable of launching precision-guidedmissiles, and kinetic energy to launch a new generation of armor-piercing shells)
parently, this tank has 155 mm gun (capable of firing next-generation kinetic rounds), upgraded Active Protection System, upgraded active laser defense system, better armor, 2100-hp engine, and more.
This tank is apparently in testing, and initial batch of 200 Type 99KM tanks will commence production soon.
The report also claims that the Type 99KM tank is 10 years ahead of any other main battle tank in technology.
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According to the Russian "tankreported, "reported in the Russian military is also looking forward to knowing when to come out of the T-95tank, the Chinese designers have quietly completed the 99KM latest main battletankof the test .
Previously developed with the Chinese tank is different, 99KM tank equipped with a modular active protection system that can more effectively resist the serial high-explosiveanti-tank weapons andattacks, the world leader in its advanced degree of at least 10 years, China's tank The first manufacturer to produce more than 200 of 99KM tank.
The report also said, 99KM tank still installed improved JD-4 type active laser defense system. The device consists of a laser warning system and generator of a quantum oscillation component. There are enemy tanks in the received ranging signal laser beam irradiation, JD-4 on the alarm system automatically directed to turn the turret where the laser beam emission source direction. After that it will launch a bunch of low-energy laser to determine the exact location of target, when this step is completed, the firing of the laser beam's energy is instantaneously severe increases, so does the optical system of the direct destruction of enemy or the operator blind. Currently, the world's modern tanks have been served in any kind of equipment do not have a similar defense system. This unique feature will no doubt become a battlefield tank 99KM an extremely dangerous opponent, a 99KM power equivalent to 2 to 3 T-90 orM1A1 tank.
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Type 99KM: Newest and much-improved Type 99 variant, with upgraded modular active protection system, upgraded JD-4 active laser defense system, and is armed with a 155 mm gun capable of launching missiles and next-generation kinetic rounds. Reports have it that the Type 99KM is at least 10 years ahead of other MBTs.
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TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
not that. This
antiterror13
Brigadier
I don't understand why China wouldn't spend .... let's say extra $1B spending for extra 400-500 99A2/A3 or 99KM units a year
surely $1B is nothing for China .... I fully understand the focus is now for Navy and AF, and no threat on China land at the moment .... but the history tell us, it could change "overnight" ... and it could (remote) be too late
surely $1B is nothing for China .... I fully understand the focus is now for Navy and AF, and no threat on China land at the moment .... but the history tell us, it could change "overnight" ... and it could (remote) be too late
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Allegiances may change overnight, but no one can magic up thousands of tanks overnight.
With the balance of industrial strength, no one could hope to out-produce China if it came to full on national level industrial mobilisation and re prioritisation for war time emergency production. That means China doesn't need to be proactive. It can afford to let others get a head start in an arms race and still easily out produce them if the threat looks real enough.
Casting your eyes around, which of China's land based neighbours have a land army that can realistically not only defeat, but steamroll the PLA so fast they can capture or destroy China's industrial heartland before Chinese industrial might starts turning the tide?
Anyone trying to reach China's manufacturing heartland overland will pretty much have to fight right across the length and breadth of China to get there. That's months if not years of hard, bloody fighting against just China's existing forces even if you are being wildly optimistic.
China's existing weapons manufacturing capacity is already formidable, but it will be like a mountain stream compared to the flood of arms and equipment China could produce if it retasked its commerical manufacturing capacity to wartime goods, as would happen in the event of such an attempted invasion.
The real threat to China's industrial heart is from the sea, which is why China is devoting the lion share of its resources to its Air Force and navy.
A billion dollars may not seem like much in the grand scheme of things, but the upfront acquisition cost is only part of the total life cycle cost of buying and operating a weapons system, and is usually only a small fraction of the overall total cost. So that billion dollars may be be 3 or 4 or more billion if you count operational costs, maintenance, repairs, training and the like.
That spending is also consumption. While consumption does boost the economy, it doesn't boost it nearly as much as investment. China only has a huge foreign reserve because it invested instead of consumpted in years past, and that has given the PLA a far bigger budget as the Chinese economy grew even as the defence budget as a percentage of GDP remained static or even fell.
Asside from the raw financial and opportunity cost of buying the tanks, there is also the 'dreadnought effect' to consider, and that is related to technological change.
When the British and the Germans were engaged in their arms race before WWI, the Royal Navy completely changed the rules by building the HMS Dreadnaught, which was so revolutionary and powerful, it made the world's existing battleship fleets obsolete virtually overnight.
That spurred a period of rapid growth and advancement whereby each new class was substantially better and more powerful than the last, creating a difficult choice for planners. If they went for tonnage and built a lot of ships of the current design, in a few years time, their opponent will almost certainly roll out new designs that substantially outclass your existing fleet. So if he builds a similar sized fleet then, he would enjoy a substantial advantage. However, if he doesn't have a big, powerful fleet in the meantime, I have the big advantage, so if war started tomorrow, I would win.
That is the classic dilemma of balancing current needs with the advancements of future designs in an arms race.
China is not in an arms race with anyone, well not in tanks. That means it can safely defer bulk procurement of tanks now, since there is no credible threat, until later, when Chinese industry will be able to make far better tanks.
All China needs to do at present is maintains low volume production of its latest tanks to keep the factories open and the skill base alive, as well as ensure its forces don't fall too far behind any neighbours. It can then take that billion you would have spent on tanks, spend 100m on R&D for better tanks, and invest the rest. Which is pretty much exactly what it is doing.
That means that in 5, 10, 20 years down the line when there is a real threat, China will have far more money to build far better tanks as and when the security situation deem it prudent to do so.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Also factor in Geography. The PRC is a nation against two barriers. To the east there is the Sea. To the west there is the Hindu Kush. To the north the step to the south the Jungle. The PRC Is the one good tank location in that part of Asia. Outside of the Gobi its all terrible tank country.
antiterror13
Brigadier
Yes, terrible for heavy tanks. That's why the majority of Chinese tanks are the lighter one (e.g Type 96A) beside cheaper
kwaigonegin
Colonel
Yup.. Nobody I mean nobody is dumb enough to do a land invasion of China. That would be an unwinnable campaign and strategy. People will start lobbing nukes first before any tanks can even make it downtown which makes everything moot.
oh sorry, here it is
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chinas current tank fleet is extremely old! 2500 type 96 and only 200-700 type 99. why china isnt build more?? their tanks are cheap, compared to m1 or leo....
china need not a big, but a medium sized fleet of type 99A2 which is a very good and modern tank. maybe 1000, and the 2500type 96 as cheap "front fighter"
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TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Here is the Big hole I can shoot into this Valapak. Time.
all three of these are based on this article.
but the date is 2009. the Final product is still open ended.