New Type98/99 MBT thread

drunkmunky

Junior Member
I understand a polarized perspective with critical breakdown to PLA tank development and the issues that need to be addressed with future development but ffs Godzilla?

Disqualified.
 

chuck731

Banned Idiot
And you are suggesting that the Chinese should stop there and be content with what they have? That is pretty funny don't you think.

No, Even China has finite resources, and a lot of areas still badly in need of modernizing. A tank fleet adaquately provided with a mid- to late- 1990s MBT would not, I think, be the most important area to spend that resource.

Also, I think the most likely areas where Chinese AFV might fight other AFV in the next 10-15 years would be:

1. North Korea - highly doubtful North Korea could compete with the existing type 99

2. China-India border - highly doubtful main battle tanks could make it up there.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
I think China will continue to R&D their MBT, but as far as producing them in mass numbers, I don't think they're in any kind of rush to do so at this time. I do think they will keep building and improving the manufacturers to efficiency just in case of they ever needed them to mass produce MBT otherwise you'll just be wasting energy and money.
 

rhino123

Pencil Pusher
VIP Professional
No, Even China has finite resources, and a lot of areas still badly in need of modernizing. A tank fleet adaquately provided with a mid- to late- 1990s MBT would not, I think, be the most important area to spend that resource.

Also, I think the most likely areas where Chinese AFV might fight other AFV in the next 10-15 years would be:

1. North Korea - highly doubtful North Korea could compete with the existing type 99

2. China-India border - highly doubtful main battle tanks could make it up there.

I understand that China had finite resources and there are areas that needed modernizing. And developing a better MBT is not just for their own internal uses, there is a market out there that had needs of new and better tanks rather than the old T-72. And developing that new tank doesn't mean to dump money into a groundless hole, there will be returns and the returns are going to be great.

Do note that China don't just have border sharing with India and North Korea. And my statement still stands, even if China had the best tanks (which she does not, by the way) in Asia and parts of Europe, it would be plain silly to just stand still without any further development of newer and better tanks and equipment, that mindset is something that would destroy an advance civilization to 'barbarians'.
 

antiterror13

Brigadier
Please tell me which country in Asia and Europe has better tank than China in significant number. For example even Challenger 2 may be a better tank than Type 99, but the British has only ~300 in operational, so an insignificant number!
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Latest Russian T90, south Korean K2, Singapore Leopard 2SG. On par is Indian t90, Russian and most everyone's T72, Japanese Type 90 and type 10, North Korean latest T90 clone. That's just thinking in the neighborhood if you want to expand since you mentioned the English challanger which is hardly in Asia please feel free to ask.
oh you did goodie.
German leopard 2A7+, french amx30. That's not counting the Israelis Merkava 4 or American M1A2 Tusk
 
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hkbc

Junior Member
I understand that China had finite resources and there are areas that needed modernizing. And developing a better MBT is not just for their own internal uses, there is a market out there that had needs of new and better tanks rather than the old T-72. And developing that new tank doesn't mean to dump money into a groundless hole, there will be returns and the returns are going to be great.

Do note that China don't just have border sharing with India and North Korea. And my statement still stands, even if China had the best tanks (which she does not, by the way) in Asia and parts of Europe, it would be plain silly to just stand still without any further development of newer and better tanks and equipment, that mindset is something that would destroy an advance civilization to 'barbarians'.

China is a huge place, with very varied topography, a tank suitable for the north china plain would be sub-optimal for use in south china. Their current mix of tanks seems to have most of the bases covered. Fundamentally, their strategic problem is not the fulda gap or the deserts of the middle east.

A bigger badder tank would really only be needed in numbers in a sino-russian conflict. In a shooting war with North Korea the Chinese would have air superiority, the Sino-Indian border is hardly tank territory.

Besides the Chinese seem to putting their Yuan into attack helos which is arguably a better way of blunting an armour assault.
 

rhino123

Pencil Pusher
VIP Professional
China is a huge place, with very varied topography, a tank suitable for the north china plain would be sub-optimal for use in south china. Their current mix of tanks seems to have most of the bases covered. Fundamentally, their strategic problem is not the fulda gap or the deserts of the middle east.

A bigger badder tank would really only be needed in numbers in a sino-russian conflict. In a shooting war with North Korea the Chinese would have air superiority, the Sino-Indian border is hardly tank territory.

Besides the Chinese seem to putting their Yuan into attack helos which is arguably a better way of blunting an armour assault.

So your point is... the Chinese should stand still and let be for their armour unit because they have 'all their base covered', while many of her neighbours are moving forward. See the point I am making?

Please tell me which country in Asia and Europe has better tank than China in significant number. For example even Challenger 2 may be a better tank than Type 99, but the British has only ~300 in operational, so an insignificant number!

Other forum members had answered. And it is with your mentality that, "I am the best now, so I should stand still" that I find appalling.
 
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