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something I posted on AFM + some pictures
This is from the same article
A little on J-10 + refueling
saying that they have reached the point where pilots can learn to refuel on a J-10 with a fuel try and the refueling rate is 1500 kg/min
A little on J-10 + HMS
saying that J-10 currently is not integrated with HMS and that the targets are all on HUD, which varies 20 degrees.
Note, I do post that above article with a lot of scepticism. A lot of stuff seem to counter what we believe right now.
J-10 in its standard interception configuration
Some shots of J-10s in evenings
This is from the same article
A little on J-10 + refueling
saying that they have reached the point where pilots can learn to refuel on a J-10 with a fuel try and the refueling rate is 1500 kg/min
A little on J-10 + HMS
saying that J-10 currently is not integrated with HMS and that the targets are all on HUD, which varies 20 degrees.
Note, I do post that above article with a lot of scepticism. A lot of stuff seem to counter what we believe right now.
J-10 in its standard interception configuration
Some shots of J-10s in evenings
The J-10 pilots so far didn't seem to have the helmets with HMS. but then again, those helmets they're using seem rather big and bulky around the ears compared to the ones used by the J-11 pilots.
It is quite intersting that a test pilot testing the J-10 was wearing a helmet with the HMS attachment. The same test pilot, pictured often, is also test flying the J-11B.
Based on pics the J-8F pilots seem to be using the standard helmet with HMS attachment used by the J-11 pilots.
I don't believe the test flight planes are seven. They number 1002 to 1009. Plus 01, and you got ten.
Its possible that the J-10S can be used like a commander of sorts or RIO. The cockpit seems a bit overkill for just a WSO or pilot instructor. But then so is the second cockpit of the JH-7A. May be for strike purposes too.
It is quite intersting that a test pilot testing the J-10 was wearing a helmet with the HMS attachment. The same test pilot, pictured often, is also test flying the J-11B.
Based on pics the J-8F pilots seem to be using the standard helmet with HMS attachment used by the J-11 pilots.
I don't believe the test flight planes are seven. They number 1002 to 1009. Plus 01, and you got ten.
Its possible that the J-10S can be used like a commander of sorts or RIO. The cockpit seems a bit overkill for just a WSO or pilot instructor. But then so is the second cockpit of the JH-7A. May be for strike purposes too.
Pointblank
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tphuang, what does the article mean when the last two test aircraft are "improved"? Is there anything missing that we know of from the first 5 test aircraft?
maozedong
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it's so simple, FC-1 used to test 4 prototpyte fighters, each one is different and improved,until 04 prototpyte is satisfy. I think he will answer your question later.
I just like to post today is according to CCTV reported that two J-10 fighters defeated four SU-27 in a against training.
and some sorces claimed that J-10 have 10 weapon hanger.
J-10 equiped the radar can search 10 target and attack 4 of them in the same time.
CCTV-7 news just reported J-10 prototpyte pilot LEE ZHONG HUWA how to fly protopyte J-10 from 1994.
this is the video.
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From what I have seen with photos is this.
- The plane that took off on the first flight and was visited by Jiang Zhemin, based on the photos, had a complete radar nose (radome with strips and all).
- There was one pic in the CDF that showed a PL-11 hanging off the plane, the color of the wing and the stripes can only mean J-10 01.
- The first FC-1 prototype that flew only had flight telemetry quipment in the nose. The nose is all metal, only painted black. It had a shiny appearance to it, like it was done in black enamel, and lacked the look of graphite with the other radomes. It also lacked the strips.
- There is another J-10 in CAC's hangers, apparently not in a very good condition also. From the pictures, the plane had a completely yellow nose as with the rest of the body, all unpainted except for the yellow primer. The nose had to be metal and had flight telemetry equipment. I should add that this plane still looks very much like any other J-10, same intake, same engine and all.
My feeling is this, the J-10 with the metal nose is the one that "flew" before J-10 01. However, I don't know about the 1994 stuff, since the AL-31FN engines were delivered around 1996. Though it may be possible that a vanilla AL-31F may have been converted for this purpose.
- The plane that took off on the first flight and was visited by Jiang Zhemin, based on the photos, had a complete radar nose (radome with strips and all).
- There was one pic in the CDF that showed a PL-11 hanging off the plane, the color of the wing and the stripes can only mean J-10 01.
- The first FC-1 prototype that flew only had flight telemetry quipment in the nose. The nose is all metal, only painted black. It had a shiny appearance to it, like it was done in black enamel, and lacked the look of graphite with the other radomes. It also lacked the strips.
- There is another J-10 in CAC's hangers, apparently not in a very good condition also. From the pictures, the plane had a completely yellow nose as with the rest of the body, all unpainted except for the yellow primer. The nose had to be metal and had flight telemetry equipment. I should add that this plane still looks very much like any other J-10, same intake, same engine and all.
My feeling is this, the J-10 with the metal nose is the one that "flew" before J-10 01. However, I don't know about the 1994 stuff, since the AL-31FN engines were delivered around 1996. Though it may be possible that a vanilla AL-31F may have been converted for this purpose.
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Chengdu J-10
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The PLAAF is watering down the J-10 capability to the media in order to hide the J-10 true capability. This is to prevent the feeling of threat and power balance around Asia. If the PLAAF said that it was more superior than the F-18E/F Super hornet than alarm bells would be ringing around Asia and the US. Bringing the US on alert. Just my thoughts
Unless the PLAAF is looking to export the J-10 in coming years. Then not only would a coverup be useless but it would also lower the asking price.
Chengdu J-10
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I think you misunderstood. What I was trying to say is that its a good fighter but not as good as the F-18E/F which China says. But really it is either on par or better which China is hiding (own J-10 not export F-10). They are saying it is a good fighter on export but even a better fighter for their own. Though they haven't said this. Theory: Possibly public saying it isn't as good as other modern fighters giving the impression that it is less capable but really China is selling these aircrafts to its possible allies to counter western aircrafts in future warfare. Element of suprise. (I know this is wild but just a wild theory though. Don't get into detail please about this theory) Of course China wants to give a good impression to the aircraft but not too good in so the US will stick their nose into the deal.
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