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I think the fervour over J-10 production rate has stopped recently, people are not speculating on new regiments anymore. It's been known for 2 years that the first 4 regiments getting J-10 are 44, 3, 2 and 1. After that, I guess we will only know when we get pictures, which starts showing up only when the regiment is fully converted and in operation. It's like that for JH-7A, we only knew about the 5th division regiments after pictures came out.
 

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There is also the "trials" regiment still in the FTTC, which probably also does training, Aggressor work, and covers the air defense of the Beijing proper.

The pause in the J-10 production has been anticipated. I believe its mean to make way for a new refreshed version of the J-10 (J-10B?).
 

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from wmf.can anyone confirm美国《华盛顿观察》杂志10月8日刊文称称:中国自称的的“三代半”高机动隐身战斗机新93,已经成功出现在兰州试飞基地。新93有大的瞬间盘旋能力和大的可用迎角,有高的最大升力系数及在失速迎角之后飞机仍是稳定可控、同时超音速的升阻比高,而在外形设计上起到隐身的要求。世界论坛网
中国产高机动隐身战斗机气动指标:
1 亚音速区最大升阻比达到10,在超音速区最大升阻比达到5;世界论坛网  2 低速最大升力系数大于1.8,超大迎角(a>60)气动特性可接受;世界论坛网 3 超音速最小阻力系数小于0.044。   世界论坛网 [url]飞机选择的发动机是中国产中推涡扇发动机两台(加力推力8120KG)或俄罗斯的 RL33发动机(加力推力8250KG),在飞行升限、最大飞行速度、爬升率、稳定盘旋过载、基本航程和起降性能等参数,经过总体综合优化设计,得出高机动隐身战斗机的翼载应为325350KG/m2,推重比应选在1.10~1.15之间,飞机的总重限制在15吨。机翼的展弦比应在2.8~3.5之间,前缘后掠角38~45,根梢比在5~6。世界论坛网 飞行性能和战效分析世界论坛网 高机动隐身战斗机飞行性能的对比: 新93     F16      Su27世界论坛网 [url]正常起飞重量(Kg)    14986.5    11350     23000世界论坛网 [url] 正常载油量(Kg)      4860     3170     5270世界论坛网 发动机台架推力(Kg)    2x8120    10800    2x12500世界论坛网 [url]http://www.wforum.com/gbindex.html

飞机推重比         1.08     0.95     1.09世界论坛网
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机翼面积(m^2)       41      27.8      62世界论坛网
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最大时用M数        2.0      2.0      2.35世界论坛网
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最大使用表速(Km/h)   1480     1390      1400世界论坛网
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最大使用过载(g)      9      9       9世界论坛网
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升限(Km)         19.0     18.3      18.5世界论坛网
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爬升率H=1Km,M=0.9      309     280      300(估)世界论坛网
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爬升率H=5Km,M=0.9      232     190      220(估)世界论坛网
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定常盘旋H=1Km,M=0.9     9      9世界论坛网
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定常盘旋H=5Km,M=0.9     7      6.06世界论坛网
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定常盘旋H=10Km,M=1.6    3.9             3.4世界论坛网
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水平加速M=0.6->1.3      33      42世界论坛网
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最大航程(Km)       3200世界论坛网
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最大作战半径(Km)     1200     1200      1580世界论坛网
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起飞滑跑距离(m)      309     350      400世界论坛网
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着陆滑跑距离(m)      498     670      620世界论坛网
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表中飞机起飞重量为14986.5Kg,机内燃油4860Kg,机动性计算取50%的机内燃油。升限计算重量取35%机内燃油;着陆性能计算取8.5%的机内燃油。飞机基本武器状态为带2枚近距格斗导弹。可见,高机动隐身战斗机的飞行性能全面优于F-16,它的爬升率和定常过载优于Su27飞机,其他飞行性能与Su27相当,只是在续航能力上稍差一点,可以采取空中加油的方法弥补。最后通过引进俄罗斯的软体进行类比高机动隐身战斗机的雷达散射截面积在正前方 30度范围内,RCS达到0.3M^2,在侧向RCS小于1M^2。这表明该方案隐身性能已经满足了指标要求。世界论坛网
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根据可信的消息,这种机在选型成功后,即开始进入详细设计阶段,这个阶段中通常开始构筑各部分的功能细节,同时一些模型或者改装的科研机就会开始试飞,验证具体功能。如果国际形势逼迫下进度更快的话,那么在2008年,全球第二种具备隐身和高机动能力的空中最优势中型战斗机将在中国空军率先进入部队服役。 ir.
 
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Just posted by "=GT" at the CDF ... and I put it together again ! :roll:



Interesting how high the WSO sits ....

And this pictures proves the location of the chaff+flare dispensers.


Cheers, Deino
 

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hmm sounds too detailed to me. i mean even the j-10 in service its specifications are at best educated guess but the amount of information given relating to its climb rate, fuel capacity, range, speed, rcs, drag coefficient and even its comparision with other jet fighters. it just seem to me like its a just some happy thinking someone had, and wrote an article about it. stating its rcs is probably the biggest giveaway of a non credible source, china doesnt give out that much information about any military hardware that isn't on the export list.
just my thoughts.
 

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:china: two J-10 at Zhuhai .... :china: (via gorgonblade CDF)
 

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A few new PIX of the J-10:D Enjoy!

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wo PLAAF J-10 aircraft arrived SanZao Airport, ZhuHai, China, 21st Oct, and prepared for the Airshow-2008 in November
 

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Lets hope people can diligently post news and pics from the Zhuhai air show. We need to liven things up in the forum.
 

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More J-10 shots.
 

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