New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

Lethe

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From May 2024:

Compare this to BYD Australia (local distributor: EVDirect):
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One of these sets of conditions inspires customer confidence, and one of them undermines confidence by making it look like the brand (a) lacks confidence in the durability of its components and (b) is seeking every opportunity to deny warranty claims and will probably try to screw you over in other ways that are not immediately apparent.

This doesn't only matter for that subset of prospective customers that are engaged enough to look into the details of such things. If you have a simple, comprehensive warranty then you can advertise it as such at every opportunity, including in critical articles such as this one! Whereas with BYD Australia, you can't even get a publicity win from advertising the long battery/motor warranty because, while battery degradation is indeed a significant customer concern, when you highlight that guarantee specifically everyone's first thought is going to be "and what about the rest of the car?"

Learnings have occurred:

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BYD cars sold in Australia are now covered by a more streamlined six-year warranty, the brand's local distributor EVDirect has confirmed.

Applicable to all BYD models sold since the brand launched in August 2022 – when deliveries of its Atto 3 electric SUV commenced – the updated warranty now includes a "bumper-to-bumper" six-year or 150,000-kilometre coverage, whichever comes first.

While the six-year/150,000-kilometre warranty term remains unchanged, there are no longer exemptions for certain vehicle components, such as the infotainment touchscreen and shock absorbers previously only covered for three years or 60,000 kilometres.

A welcome if belated development, and EVDirect should be commended for backdating the changes to cover vehicles already sold. There are a number of brands that provide warranties for longer than the six years that BYD is now offering in Australia, so this change does not push BYD to the front of the pack in that regard, but dispensing with the complexity of the old warranty structure in the table linked above should mean that it is no longer a drag on the brand's fortunes here as it has been to date.

My brother is considering a BYD Seal and, beyond suggesting he wait for the model update with frequency-selective damping and electric sunshield, the only major reservation I raised was about the warranty structure. So it's nice to see that has been taken care of.
 
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sndef888

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I saw some screen caption saying that Dongfeng is integrating Changan on Douyin the other day, did not save the link though. I have no personal opinion on that, but it would make Chinese sense in that way. "一汽“ 和 ”二汽“ have lots of supporters from old comrades.
The rumour that Dongfeng is the one absorbing Changan is definitely becoming stronger

But it's a very unpopular decision. Lots of people questioning why the better performing unit Changan is being absorbed by the incompetent mess Dongfeng
 

Wrought

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NRDC announced pilot programs for V2G electricity for 30 projects across 9 cities. The idea is to allow consumer EVs to function as batteries for the power grid while they are not in active use, to balance peak and non-peak energy demand and so on.

通知公布了首批车网互动规模化应用试点名单,并公布有关事项:

一、经专家评审,列入首批车网互动规模化应用试点范围的为上海市等9个城市以及“北京市基于新型储能的V2G车网互动协同调控试点项目”等30个项目。

二、请各省(自治区、直辖市)牵头负责充电设施发展的部门会同发展改革、能源、工业和信息化、市场监管等部门,组织试点城市有关部门和试点项目建设单位积极推进试点建设,力求取得实效,并于2025年底前将试点工作总结报送国家能源局电力司,同步抄送国家发展改革委基础设施发展司。

三、请电网企业积极支持试点建设,做好电网接入、电费计量等支撑保障服务,优化电网调度运行方式,充分发挥车网互动在绿电消纳和电力保供中的作用。

四、国家能源局派出机构要推动完善辖区内电力市场交易规则,支持车网互动规模化应用参与电力市场化交易。

五、国家发展改革委、国家能源局等部门将研究建立试点后评估机制,适时总结成效问题,及时推广先进经验,对实施效果不及预期的将移出试点名单。

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supercat

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BYD wins 2025 World Urban Car Award at the New York International Auto Show.

China will establish the most strict safety regulations for EV batteries ever.
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China's auto industry has turned the tables: German automakers not only need China's market, they also need China's technologies.

Europe helped teach China to make cars. Now the tables are turning​

The EU is trading market access for expertise in key technologies, just as Beijing once did
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gk1713

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Seems like recent accidents are forcing government to intervene
Some translation:
New regulations on auto drive by Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT)
19 automakers + 1 (Huawei) attend. 12 companies provided reports.

Public testing is prohibited. No user testing.

L2 systems must not use the term "takeover" (reserved for L3).

Regulate marketing language: Avoid terms like "autonomous," "self-driving," "intelligent driving," or "advanced intelligent driving." Use "combined assisted driving" instead.

Banned features: Unmanned parking, one-click summoning, remote control. Driver must in the loop
 

AssassinsMace

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BYD wins 2025 World Urban Car Award at the New York International Auto Show.

China will establish the most strict safety regulations for EV batteries ever.
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China's auto industry has turned the tables: German automakers not only need China's market, they also need China's technologies.

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What did Europe teach China in making EVs? ICE cars are a different animal.
 

gk1713

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Here is the English translation of the content from the slide:


Intelligent Driving Terminology Standards
Content Standards for Communication Materials
:

  • All videos, images, or text descriptions showing drivers controlling the vehicle from outside the car or driving hands-free during operation are prohibited.
  • Drivers must always maintain control of the vehicle.
  • Marketing and promotional materials for intelligent driving systems must not use vocabulary or statements that imply the system or feature can function as an autonomous driving system.
Prohibited Terminology

CategoryProhibited Terms
DrivingNOA, "Take Eyes Off" (脱眼), "Hands-Free" (脱手), "Takeover" (接管), "Autonomous Driving" (自动驾驶), "Self-Driving" (自主驾驶), "Intelligent Driving" (智能驾驶), "ZhiJia" (智驾), "Advanced Intelligent Driving" (高阶智驾)
Parking"Valet Parking" (代客泊车), "One-Click Summon" (一键召唤), "Remote Control Parking" (远程遥控), "Exit Vehicle for Parking" (离车泊入), "Remote Parking" (遥控泊车), "Key Exit" (钥匙出库)
Active SafetyAEB (Autonomous Emergency Braking)
 
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