New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

ZeEa5KPul

Colonel
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Why bother with a "consultation" when you are just going to follow the US like a loyal dog?
Waste of taxpayer's money.

Dear Deputy Leader and Finance Maven's Press Release (MA Russian Lit.)
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"Non! Voiture canadienne est fine!"
and our electric vehicle (EV) supply chain potential is ranked first in the world.
The Canadian government is branching out into standup comedy.
 

supersnoop

Major
Registered Member
This would be all well and good if we were actually going to make affordable EVs, but we are just gonna be making shit no one can afford.
You know what it worse?
This press release says Canada is #1 in EV supply chain potential!
#1 in POTENTIAL! This is Jai Canada nonsense
Making shit no one can afford would be a step up, right now they are making nothing at all in Canada!

What would make more sense is instead of a dog-tax, maybe just set a price floor for the Chinese EVs based on the current market rates of similar vehicles. This way, the competition is literally fair.

However, this would never happen because it actually makes sense. The government never does anything that is logical. Instead you have Dear Deputy Leader putting out such press releases that rival Kim Jong Il's press releases. It's just missing the part where Freeland drains 5 holes in one in a round of golf.
 

Dante80

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Canada put 100% tariff on chinese EVs

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That conflict arises from _____'s inability or unwillingness to restrain the one-sided and destructive expansion of its economic power. The expansion is one-sided because _______ business does to other countries what _____ will not permit to be done to itself.
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There is one further indication of economic imbalance: the continuing pattern of one-sidedness in many _______ transactions. A few years ago the management expert Peter Drucker introduced the term "adversarial trade" to describe _____'s approach to commerce, which is characterized by resistance to high-value imports and by targeted attacks on established foreign industries.
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the standard complaint about _______ trading practice is that it's hypocritical. _______ manufacturers sell freely in the United States, but foreigners must fight their way through public and private cartels to compete in _____.

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Dante80

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I kind of get this. Canada needs to protect it's domestic auto-makers. Now let me just look up Canadian auto-makers...
(the actual list turned out to be funnier than I could have imagined).

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tphuang

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BYD is relying on resellers in these areas as well as dealing with import and value added taxes. The resellers will of course want a cut to cover their import fees as well as profit. Depending on how BYD negotiated their contract they may or may not have put a cap on end customer price. Now with the inflated pricing, BYD as a new Chinese brand will have to compete against not only established brands, but at a price point where they aren't that far off from the established player pricing. There's already been complaints on their pricing in Europe being too high.

My question to you, is why are you so defensive about it.
My point is that you don't know why they are doing it and it's best that you don't act like you do.

BYD will lower pricing when they are ready to do so. At this point, they are still building up their export network and they can only export so much given the transport capacity they have and the number of dealers they have.

It's also very important to consider that BYD will lower price once it starts operating local plant. That significantly reduces transportation issue, tariffs and the rest. We've seen that recently they were able to do so in Thailand.

Other things to consider is that there are significant upgrades coming to Seal, Sea Lion and what not. There is no reason to start price war in European countries when the product itself is still undergoing significant changes. You don't want to sell too many of them and then develop a bad reputation. As such, consider the current sales to be learning about European market. Things don't need to be rushed.
 

supersnoop

Major
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Their American masters demanded. They delivered. Do these tarrifs affect second hand purchases?
Tarrifs only apply to incoming goods, not second hand sales. However, what second hand sales? No Chinese cars have been imported.

I doubt Chinese cars can get permits
BYD e6 was permitted in Canada.
Chinese cars are no different from any other car. As long as you do all the certifications, you can sell. It would take a special order from the Prime Minister to stop it. If a Chinese company was willing to invest all this time and money to build dealerships, hire a workforce to staff dealerships, office, support staff, service centres, etc. you don't think that the permit would go through?
 
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