New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

hullopilllw

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Guess wad car I come across today...

costing 71k usd with 2.0L engine...I am not sure who is buying them...
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bd popeye

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Chinese car maker Zeekr says its new electric vehicle (EV) batteries charge faster than any of its rivals, including industry leaders Tesla and BYD.

The firm claims its upgraded batteries can be charged from 10% to 80% capacity in 10 and a half minutes using its ultra-fast charging stations.

In comparison, Elon Musk’s Tesla says a 15 minute charge allows its Model 3 to cover 175 miles (282km), a little under half the car’s full range.

Zeekr's 2025 007 sedan, which will be available from next week, will be its first vehicle to have the new battery.

The battery performs well even in cold weather charging from 10% to 80% of its capacity in less than half an hour at temperatures as low as -10C,
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BBC News has contacted Tesla and BYD to request a response to Zeekr's announcement.

Tu Le, founder and managing director of consultancy firm Sino Auto Insights told the BBC: "Tesla’s charging technology is not industry leading anymore and has not been for some time."

"These bold claims by Zeekr are believable, but more importantly even if it’s not the fastest charging EV battery, being one for the fastest is still quite a leap for them".

"The competition in China is incredibly fierce and while brands like BYD prioritise scale and sales, brands like Zeekr, Li [Auto] and Nio are focused on maximising the charging experience," said Mark Rainford, a China-based car industry commentator.

"Zeekr's parent company, Geely, is pretty much a vertically integrated business... they have the resources to do this," he added.

Geely owns several brands, including UK-based luxury sports car brand Lotus and Sweden's Volvo.
In May, Zeekr's shares started trading on the New York Stock Exchange, marking the first major US market debut by a Chinese company since 2021.

The shares are currently trading 27% below the price set in its initial public offering (IPO).

The listing came just days before the Biden administration announced major tariff hikes on Chinese-made electric cars, solar panels, steel and other goods.

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the measures, which included a 100% border tax on EVs from China, were a response to unfair policies and intended to protect US jobs.

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have grown increasingly concerned about the rapid overseas expansion of Chinese EV companies.
 

bd popeye

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Full information in the posted link. Rather lengthy!

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SGMW is a joint venture between Shanghai-based SAIC Motor, United States-based General Motors and Liuzhou Wuling Motor. It is based in Liuzhou, in South China's Guangxi Zhuang autonomous region.

The joint venture's plant in Indonesia, the first of its kind outside China, started production in 2017. It has invested a total of $1 billion to build the manufacturing base, which includes a factory with an annual production capacity of 120,000 units and a parts and components park.

While Japanese cars are a familiar sight on the busy roads of Indonesia's capital Jakarta, Jefri Setiawan is seeing more Chinese vehicles as he drives to work every morning.

The 40-year-old mid-level manager is the proud owner of Wuling BinguoEV. He bought the car three months ago after visiting a motor show at the Jakarta International Expo.

He decided to buy the model as it is more affordable than higher-priced brands such as Chery, Neta and BYD — the latest Chinese EVs to enter the Indonesian market — and similar vehicles from Japan, South Korea, the United States and the United Kingdom.

Wuling and other Chinese brands also attracted a lot of interest at the Gaikindo Indonesia International Auto Show, which ran from July 18 to 28 in Jakarta. The event — the largest auto show in Indonesia and one of the biggest in Southeast Asia — was organized by the Association of Indonesian Automotive Industries.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Rich russian gangsters love that huge GWM crap

GWM is the only Chinese brand that can match American brands for excessive size and egotistical masculinity
The Dongfeng M-Hero is also a strong candidate in this category (can't beat those pistol door handles), so it's not exclusively GWM's.

If there's to be an excessive size and egotistical masculinity category, I certainly want China represented strongly, and I much prefer that Russian gangsters drive GWM than Escalades or whatever they drove before.
 

broadsword

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The Dongfeng M-Hero is also a strong candidate in this category (can't beat those pistol door handles), so it's not exclusively GWM's.

If there's to be an excessive size and egotistical masculinity category, I certainly want China represented strongly, and I much prefer that Russian gangsters drive GWM than Escalades or whatever they drove before.

Russian gangsters drive GWM, their mafia bosses drive Hongqi E-HS9.
 

sndef888

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The Dongfeng M-Hero is also a strong candidate in this category (can't beat those pistol door handles), so it's not exclusively GWM's.

If there's to be an excessive size and egotistical masculinity category, I certainly want China represented strongly, and I much prefer that Russian gangsters drive GWM than Escalades or whatever they drove before.
Absolutely. GWM is a good brand in that sense.

I just hate GWM personally because I don't want China's streets to become like America's full of massive children killing machines wasting space for no reason. I much prefer the southeast asian/japanese/european small car culture in this regard.
 

yungho

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The Dongfeng M-Hero is also a strong candidate in this category (can't beat those pistol door handles), so it's not exclusively GWM's.

If there's to be an excessive size and egotistical masculinity category, I certainly want China represented strongly, and I much prefer that Russian gangsters drive GWM than Escalades or whatever they drove before.
Wish the Dongfeng M-Hero was more practical and not as heavy tbh. As a PLA enjoyer I would love a scaled down civilian version of the Dongfeng Mengshi.
 

bd popeye

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Absolutely. GWM is a good brand in that sense.

I just hate GWM personally because I don't want China's streets to become like America's full of massive children killing machines wasting space for no reason. I much prefer the southeast asian/japanese/european small car culture in this regard.

Children killing machines? C'mon now. That's pretty harsh. Each one of us is entitled to his or her opinion.

There is a scroll down chart on the page below showing traffic deaths per 100,000 people. The US is at 12.7 deaths per 100,000 people. China's vehicular death rate is 17.4 per 100,000 people. Japan's death rate is really low at 3.6 per 100,000 people. Singapore vehicular death rate is 2.1 per 100,000.

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SanWenYu

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Children killing machines? C'mon now. That's pretty harsh. Each one of us is entitled to his or her opinion.

There is a scroll down chart on the page below showing traffic deaths per 100,000 people. The US is at 12.7 deaths per 100,000 people. China's vehicular death rate is 17.4 per 100,000 people. Japan's death rate is really low at 3.6 per 100,000 people. Singapore vehicular death rate is 2.1 per 100,000.

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Not to defend China on this but there are reasons for the country’s bad score on traffic deaths - crowder streets, lower public awareness on driving safety, more drivers and pedestrians are inexperienced, traffic law enforcement sometimes lousy, too.

The number of humongous SUVs and pickups on road is less of an issue in China than in the US. In most Chinese cities, pickups are actually heavily restricted, or altogether banned, on city roads.
 
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