New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

sndef888

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About time. I think there are just too many Chinese EV car makers. Need some consolidation
These startups are fine. Plenty of foreign capital for them to waste spend

The big issue is the all the SOEs (Changan, Dongfeng, FAW, GAC, SAIC/Wuling) and larger private co like Geely, GWM. It's a race to the bottom because each region only wants to support their own company so none of them can rise up and dominate nationally. China easily has the scale to accommodate another BYD, but the fragmentation makes it impossible.

Idk if it's related, but if you look at where BYD builds its factories, it seems like they're avoiding all the provinces/cities that have their own car companies
 
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tphuang

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NIO claims to enter Chinese market in 2025. Seems unlikely imo


LiAuto MEGA taking pre-orders soon


BYD w/ discounts across the board in Nov


Weak Tesla deliveries across the board


Leopard 5 getting launched finally in this next Thursday
 

dingyibvs

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Somehow, for some reason, NIO prefers to spend valuable time, manpower, and money to set up its US business in the present geopolitical environment.

I don't understand what's going through NIO's leaderships head.
The strategic missteps by Nio over the past few years is just mind boggling. They actually make solid cars, and battery exchange/lease is a workable idea that cna differentiate them. If they just focused on those things, like tuning their cars to suit their customers' needs, making production more efficient/cheaper, finding ways to make battery exchange more economical (e.g. doubling as mini-peaker power plants), then hey could be a really compelling and unique company. Instead, they focus on brand building before they have a compelling product and waste money with Nio phones and Nio houses.
 

CMP

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The strategic missteps by Nio over the past few years is just mind boggling. They actually make solid cars, and battery exchange/lease is a workable idea that cna differentiate them. If they just focused on those things, like tuning their cars to suit their customers' needs, making production more efficient/cheaper, finding ways to make battery exchange more economical (e.g. doubling as mini-peaker power plants), then hey could be a really compelling and unique company. Instead, they focus on brand building before they have a compelling product and waste money with Nio phones and Nio houses.
I.E., they are like the Trump of the EV world.
 
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