New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

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AssassinsMace said:
There was a video I saw on YouTube from one of those Elon Musk cultists I've heard about that praise and follow anything Elon Musk where they showed a video out of China of some guy who broke down a Tesla and BYD car claiming BYDs are poorly made compared to a Tesla. The propaganda gets confusing because I've always heard about people complaining how Teslas have bad build quality. It's like how people rave over Italian sportscars yet they notoriously breakdown a lot.
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Then you should not fret over that dumb video since it's pure baloney. There was a recent post that discussed how a popular Japanese publication did a teardown of BYD Seal and revealed that Chinese EV is here to stay and dominate and also how far ahead it is in comparison to its Japanese rivals, not to mention A MUCH BETTER BUILD THAN TESLA.
 
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protectionism is normal and logical. Unless you think countries around the world should welcome getting de-industrialized

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1702373352919191589
BYD seal getting launched in Colombia, there will be more stores opened by end of the year

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1702233550790226229
BYD mega store opening in Sydney. Maybe Seal will get launched soon. Still waiting for Dolphin deliveries to really start

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1702313294986391886
FAW to partner up with Mobileye. Look at that timeline, not great
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I'm wondering why doesn't China ban Nokia and Ericsson？Don't forget EU banned Huawei and ZTE. They should be banned from either national security perspective or trade retaliation perspective

Nokia and Ericsson base station's share in China actually increased recently. I simply cannot comprehend this
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tonyget said:
I'm wondering why doesn't China ban Nokia and Ericsson？Don't forget EU banned Huawei and ZTE. They should be banned from either national security perspective or trade retaliation perspective

Nokia and Ericsson base station's share in China actually increased recently. I simply cannot comprehend this
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Because reducing competitions = reduces innovations? China has no problem letting in Tesla despite US banning Chinese EVs. Look at the effects of having Tesla in the Chinese automotive market. They are quite positive.
 
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tonyget said:
I'm wondering why doesn't China ban Nokia and Ericsson？Don't forget EU banned Huawei and ZTE. They should be banned from either national security perspective or trade retaliation perspective

Nokia and Ericsson base station's share in China actually increased recently. I simply cannot comprehend this
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Because most of their components were source from China. ;)

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May 17, 2022 — Nokia, Ericsson, and Cisco have sought for GoI's help for allowing them to bring their equipment and component from China.

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Jul 7, 2020 — According to Nokia, “The joint venture will carry on the major part of Nokia's activities in China. It will continue to develop new technologies ...
 
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