New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

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ansy1968

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Boltzmann said:
However, unlike the big Japanese and later American corporations of that time, CATL is not so desperate for decent returns that it will willingly compromise its IP to get them. Also, Beijing has a much higher degree of control over outward FDI than the US or Japan, so it would prevent CATL from carrying out such an investment if that were to happen.
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Yup Capital Control the bane of Neoliberal vulture capitalist. ;)
 
56860

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tphuang said:
why would Chinese govt not want Chinese business to succeed in America? Day after day, I come to this forum and people are here are always concerned that these business are going to get taken advantage of. That they can't take care of themselves.

If these businesses are such wall flowers and need your protection, they don't deserve to stick around.
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As @KYli pointed out, there's a difference between corporate interest and national interest. Companies, no matter what they say, are loyal first and foremost to their bottom line. The government is responsible for safeguarding national interests. For example, pre-Trump, it was in the corporate interest but against the national interest for Chinese semi companies to buy foreign tools instead of investing large amounts of capital into developing domestic supply chains. It was also in the corporate interest but against the national interest for American companies to offshore large, critical chunks of their production into China.

A business decision can make maximize returns while at the same time going against national interests. This is where the government must step in.
 
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56860 said:
As @KYli pointed out, there's a difference between corporate interest and national interest. Companies, no matter what they say, are loyal first and foremost to their bottom line. The government is responsible for safeguarding national interests. For example, pre-Trump, it was in the corporate interest but against the national interest for Chinese semi companies to buy foreign tools instead of investing large amounts of capital into developing domestic supply chains. It was also in the corporate interest but against the national interest for American companies to offshore large, critical chunks of their production into China.

A business decision can make maximize returns while at the same time going against national interests. This is where the government must step in.
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There is always this freakout by people that somehow other country will steal Chinese tech, because China managed to copy other country's tech. Like, it is that easy to do it.

Now, let me ask you something, the plant is owned by Ford. CATL is just providing the technology know how. So what are you concerned with? That Ford starts making its own LFP batteries with chemistry that's 2 or 3 years behind using supply chain dominated by Chinese companies?

All these freakouts day after day, can people spell out why these things are bad other than association with America or India?
 
supercat

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Good I say
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LMAO - I'm eagerly waiting to see Tesla factory's progress in India.

This sounds like a scheme to wipe out American investors' money, yet the politicians, who does not know much except hating China, allow it to happen.
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