New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

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Brussels Playbook: EU eyes Chinese cars​


SCOOP — EU’S ‘TRADE ENFORCER’ EYES CHINA’S ELECTRIC VEHICLES: Brussels is under pressure to impose restrictions on Chinese electric cars, over fears that imports are flooding the European market at a speed and scale that threaten the Continent’s own production of such vehicles.

Anti-dumping investigation: The Commission’s trade defense unit, led by Denis Redonnet, the “chief trade enforcer,” is now discussing whether to launch an investigation that could allow the EU to impose additional levies or restrictions, known as anti-dumping and anti-subsidy investigations, on such cars, two senior officials told Playbook.


Problem for industry: Asked about the investigation, a third senior official, Internal Market Commissioner Thierry Breton, told Playbook in an interview: “I am very much in favor of opening a dumping investigation into electric cars as soon as possible,” adding that “the rapid increase in imports has become a problem for EU industry.”


Keeping it zipped: A Commission spokesperson said Brussels had “no comment” on any future investigations.


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The EU can restrict imports from outside the Union if its trade department determines in an investigation that certain products have been subsidized or are being sold below cost and are destroying EU industry.


How tariffs are used: But while Europe regularly imposes tariffs on Chinese commodities such as steel and aluminum, it has so far shied away from slapping tariffs on higher-end goods such as cars, trains and medical devices — out of concern that Beijing would react with tit-for-tat tariffs.


Germany-France rift: China’s system of state capitalism relies on gigantic subsidy programs for industries that the communist party wants to turn into global champions. But there’s a disagreement within the EU over how to deal with China’s booming car exports.


French officials and car industry bosses (whose electric car models face direct competition from Chinese alternatives) have long advocated for tougher restrictions against what they argue is unfair competition.


In a speech last May, French President Emmanuel Macron argued the EU should not allow China to kill off one of its big industries. “We must not repeat in the electric car market the mistakes we made with photovoltaics, where we created a dependency on Chinese industry and made its manufacturers prosper,” Macron said.


German officials, meanwhile, warn Beijing’s potential retaliation could hurt exports to China, as well as make life harder for European companies that have big investments in the Asian powerhouse.


Germany’s government is also in full preparation mode for a
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next week, when Chancellor Olaf Scholz and his Cabinet will host Chinese ministers in Berlin on June 20.


But the mood is changing: Even in Germany, officials now fear that China’s sales of electric vehicles could crush Europe’s car industry — one of the Continent’s biggest employers and cash cows.


Sales offensive: In recent months, Chinese brands such as BYD, Great Wall and Ora have launched a massive sales offensive in Europe, where they are rapidly gaining market share with increasingly high-quality and low-price electric vehicles. A
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by German insurer Allianz said Chinese electric vehicles posed the greatest risk to Europe’s automakers and could cost them €7 billion a year in profits unless the EU imposes reciprocal tariffs.


What’s next: Redonnet and his team are preparing several anti-dumping and anti-subsidy investigations, the officials told Playbook. One senior official said the first set of investigations would be published on July 12, while the two others did not confirm a date.
 

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Brussels Playbook: EU eyes Chinese cars​

As though European manufacturers didn’t subsidize their car industries on the way up.

Macron also showing his true colors. As always Indo-Europeans show their hypocrisy when they’re on the losing side while advocating for “free trade” when they’re on the winning side.
 

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After $9.3 billion investment from parent company and loans from Vietnam financial institutions, Vinfast is no where near profitable and its cars have a lot of problem. Its manufacturing plant in NC is delayed. Now, Vinfast has put on its hope for the SPAC listing in order to find more suckers to cough up more money.
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Vuong’s propping up of VinFast has been costly. Parent company Vingroup JSC and its affiliates and external lenders have deployed around $9.3 billion to fund the EV maker between 2017 and the end of March, according to the filing.

The manufacturer also appears to have moved away from a time frame for production at its mooted factory in North Carolina.

In March, VinFast indicated production at the as-yet-unbuilt facility wouldn’t start until 2025. It’s removed that time reference in the latest filing, saying only that pre-construction work on the plant started in the third quarter of last year. The factory is expected to have initial capacity for 150,000 vehicles a year, then ramp up to around 250,000 vehicles a year. The company doesn’t say when it expects to reach those capacity levels.
 

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After $9.3 billion investment from parent company and loans from Vietnam financial institutions, Vinfast is no where near profitable and its cars have a lot of problem. Its manufacturing plant in NC is delayed. Now, Vinfast has put on its hope for the SPAC listing in order to find more suckers to cough up more money.
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Vuong’s propping up of VinFast has been costly. Parent company Vingroup JSC and its affiliates and external lenders have deployed around $9.3 billion to fund the EV maker between 2017 and the end of March, according to the filing.

The manufacturer also appears to have moved away from a time frame for production at its mooted factory in North Carolina.

In March, VinFast indicated production at the as-yet-unbuilt facility wouldn’t start until 2025. It’s removed that time reference in the latest filing, saying only that pre-construction work on the plant started in the third quarter of last year. The factory is expected to have initial capacity for 150,000 vehicles a year, then ramp up to around 250,000 vehicles a year. The company doesn’t say when it expects to reach those capacity levels.
Why post news on Vietnamese failures here? This thread is about Chinese cars. Should go in the funny thread.
 

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KYli

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Why post news on Vietnamese failures here? This thread is about Chinese cars. Should go in the funny thread.
We don't have a thread for EVs for other countries and the MOD doesn't like anyone creating new threads without good reasons. Most other EV makers such as Telsa news also posted here. I don't know if it is funny or sad but companies like Vinfast and Faraday have siphoned a lot of money with bad results. It is still a good case study why so many car makers success but others fail. I think ample of engineers and complete supply chain plays a strong role why China always emerge in victorious in new industries from solar, winds, to EVs.
 

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let's not do that. It's good to show that building EVs is not easy. also why Vietnam has been courting BYD

BYD entering Italian market

10000 Atto 3 to be shipped to Australia. Nice milestone. Expecting big export #s in second half of this year
Vinfast isn't the only scam EV company, there were many before like Nikola, Faraday Future and Lucid motors. It probably isn't good to single out Vietnamese EV manufacturers on this thread. Though to be fair Vinfast is backed by Vietnamese-Chinese/Chinese owners and capital so in a way it is slightly relevant to the NEV industry in China.
 
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